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greetings and salutations friends and

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welcome back

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uh tonight we're going to be continuing

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uh series that we began

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on experiencers many people have asked

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me to interview more experiencers or to

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bring more as guests

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but that gets to be tricky because many

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so-called experiencers have

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not much other than their stories

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so i did begin to look for

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people that have a little more meat on

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the bones as i like to say than just a

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i first heard about our guest tonight uh

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in the new york post

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because he is a firefighter

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our guest tonight

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andrew

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uh says he's a psychic medium according

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to the new york post article who

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regularly encounters extraterrestrials

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ufos dead people angels and other

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strange phenomenon even in this brooklyn

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i have posted a link to that new york

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in uh the live chat i found the article

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interesting because it's rare that

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somebody uh with these type of

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experiences get sort of mainstream media

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coverage but andrew did

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perhaps because he's a new york city

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firefighter

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i'm not quite sure why there was

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interest but i'm glad that there was

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because uh he's got some incredible

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experiences

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and also appears to have unlike a lot of

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experiences he has evidence he's got a

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youtube page full of videos um he's a

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cp5 kind of a person

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um seeing ufos and videotaping them and

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we're going to be sharing some of that

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tonight but

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before we do let's get to the man

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himself andrew here

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there we go andrew

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let's do this try this again

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good to see you

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hey steve thanks for having me can you

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hear me fine

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yeah yeah absolutely okay cool cool

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uh yeah i just want to thank you for

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having me on the show this is great um

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i had heard

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i um

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i'd heard about your show and then i had

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seen recently that you had on

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a friend of mine by the name of richard

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dodie

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um oh i didn't know you guys were

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friends that's interesting

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yeah i know oh yeah yeah

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he knows everybody in this strange world

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yeah that's right um

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yeah so it's interesting you know you

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you meet people along the way you meet

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good ones bad ones in between everything

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um you know it's interesting

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how it really all started for me uh just

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to give your audience a little

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introduction

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basically growing up

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i used to watch that show unsolved

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mysteries on tv yeah robert stack love

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it that's part of the inspiration for my

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show you know with the smoke and mirrors

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and mystery and

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intrigue sure

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so i used to watch out my grandmother

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you know in like the 90s we used to talk

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and say all right hey

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you know if there's any way you could

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come back to me you know after you cross

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can you promise that you'll come back

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you know i wanted to make like a deal

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with her that she would come back

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and then that was in like 1995

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31 you know 1995

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when i'm like 31 she passed away so many

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many years after this

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my grandmother passes away

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i was at a restaurant in town where i

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it is at the beginning of long island

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and the border actually i listen i i

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lived on long island for a short time i

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know exactly where that is

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oh okay yes you know yeah nice little

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yeah a lot of shops and restaurants

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beautiful place yeah

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yeah absolutely and um

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we're in a restaurant there me and my

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mom and a guy comes up to us

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and he's got long hair and earrings and

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he says to me and my mom he said

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you had a relative that just died

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and she had cancer on her face and it

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and went to her brain and she passed

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and the guy said well i'm a medium

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he said my name is robert hanson

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i said oh i heard of you but i never had

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seen a medium before face to face or

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anything but i heard the name so i was

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like all right whatever

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uh and then he said to me he said which

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one of you me and my mom because which

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one of you was born on easter sunday

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was born on easter sunday in the 1950s

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it's rare that they get hits that good

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so that was pretty clear you know it was

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pretty clear pretty direct i said all

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right you know we're on to somewhere

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and then he said to me he said you have

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a relative that died

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sounding name

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i said now that doesn't make any sense i

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what that is but it's possible but i

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just don't recall

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she points on the wall in her living

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room and there's a painting

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in a christening dress

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a little tiny girl and i said mom who is

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that

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but she died over a hundred years ago

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i said well i've never heard that story

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i thought that was you

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she goes no no i looked like her

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through generations and given to my mom

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because it kind of reminded people of my

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mom but it wasn't my mom it was just a

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relatively distant one who nobody

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had met you know she died over 100 years

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ago so anyone that was alive no one even

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actually met her so i said all right

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this guy either came into my mom's house

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experience i've only i've only come

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across a lot of uh people that i

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that are much more vague it's rare that

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i hear somebody is that specific with

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with the information that they're

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sharing with people

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um but actually he that the name is

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familiar and i just checked my files the

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name is familiar because he's that guy

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is on my list

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of of mediums to look into

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he's been banging around for a while in

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new york

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oh yeah 20 years yeah he's very popular

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and he's very busy

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in other words he's very booked

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he's very very booked and usually how

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you know how good one of these people is

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whether you believe they have

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superpowers or not is how busy they are

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if they're not very busy uh

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they're not very good but the good ones

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are usually very busy he's a very busy

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guy from what i have looked into

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so that's interesting you know

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he's on my list

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yeah yeah well i have to tell you what i

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really like too was when you meet him

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he encourages you to bring a recording

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device

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to record what happened

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so i have every session i've ever met

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with him or i'll get into with it i

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eventually trained with him i recorded

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everything that way people could listen

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to it and go

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oh it's [\h__\h] or the guy's fishing or

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you hear this or that and there's just

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none of that with this guy i didn't get

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any of that

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two years after i met him

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in between that two years from when i

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met him until two years later i did not

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research him i did not look him up i

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didn't go track him down i wasn't on

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social media nothing

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i went through a separation and i was

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living in long beach long island

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my house was underwater from hurricane

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sandy

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so i went through a pretty [\h__\h] time so

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i tracked him down and i said maybe this

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guy could help me out or tell me

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something i don't know man i was pretty

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desperate you know i was just going

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through a horrible time in life

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and um i track him down

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he let me record it

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and uh

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at the end of the reading

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he was spot on told me things that i

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hadn't heard before i recorded the whole

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thing

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at the end of the reading he said

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i have a firefighter that's coming

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through

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he said and he was on top of a ladder

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that was fully extended like a cherry

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picker

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and he fell

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hit the ground and died

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and i i in my mind i was a firefighter

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new york city firefighter so i'm

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thinking

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well i don't personally know anyone that

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happened to like know what i was friends

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with

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but i know a story

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about a guy that that happened to there

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was a guy danny poo jack that's how he

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robert said to me he goes

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the name is a poo poo poo poo i said poo

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jack he goes yeah i said well i don't

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know the guy so i don't know what that

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means for me i don't know his family

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nothing

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he said but like anything when you get

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read

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take a note put that to the side don't

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forget about it just keep it to the side

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because maybe in the future or maybe

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further in the reading something will

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make sense and put this thing yeah i

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have seen my in my study of psychics and

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especially mediums a lot of them say

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that and and and

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i'm not sure why that is but i i do know

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that a lot of people will later connect

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the dots whether they're

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genuine read psychic readings or you

287
00:14:07,030 --> 00:14:05,040
know mediumship

288
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speaking to dead people or it's cold

289
00:14:10,949 --> 00:14:08,959
reading in either case

290
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people will connect the dots later you

291
00:14:14,310 --> 00:14:12,720
know they will go oh that's what he

292
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meant you know

293
00:14:18,470 --> 00:14:16,399
it's it's quite common with psychics and

294
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mediums yeah

295
00:14:22,470 --> 00:14:20,639
so i walk out of his

296
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well i'm finishing up the reading with

297
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him

298
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at the end of the reading he says to me

299
00:14:28,470 --> 00:14:27,519
he goes but andrew he goes you have this

300
00:14:33,990 --> 00:14:28,480
gift

301
00:14:34,949 --> 00:14:34,000
ability i said what do you mean like

302
00:14:37,110 --> 00:14:34,959
psychic

303
00:14:38,629 --> 00:14:37,120
he goes yeah i said nah man i said i'm a

304
00:14:39,670 --> 00:14:38,639
new york city firefighter i'm not a

305
00:14:41,990 --> 00:14:39,680
psychic

306
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i said that that's that's crazy i said i

307
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i

308
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yeah

309
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i'm like 32 years old or something i'm

310
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like

311
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nah man that can't be in my path in life

312
00:15:00,310 --> 00:14:58,560
like i'm a farmer you know that that's

313
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it so

314
00:15:06,389 --> 00:15:03,760
he's like listen he goes i can show you

315
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how to interpret the messages that are

316
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around us

317
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he goes i'm not going to make you

318
00:15:14,470 --> 00:15:11,920
psychic no one can make you psychic but

319
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i can help you interpret the signs that

320
00:15:17,829 --> 00:15:16,160
are around us and i know they're

321
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communicating with you

322
00:15:21,990 --> 00:15:20,000
i said all right i'll give it a shot

323
00:15:25,030 --> 00:15:22,000
right what do i have to lose i said how

324
00:15:26,629 --> 00:15:25,040
do i do this he said every saturday

325
00:15:28,710 --> 00:15:26,639
i train people

326
00:15:31,110 --> 00:15:28,720
for three hours

327
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and it's twenty dollars

328
00:15:35,590 --> 00:15:33,279
so three hours of training for twenty

329
00:15:37,430 --> 00:15:35,600
dollars from a legit medium

330
00:15:39,509 --> 00:15:37,440
you can't find that anywhere that's

331
00:15:41,189 --> 00:15:39,519
unbelievable yeah you can't get anything

332
00:15:43,350 --> 00:15:41,199
from a psychic or a medium for twenty

333
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dollars i know twenty bucks yeah yeah

334
00:15:47,030 --> 00:15:44,800
well

335
00:15:49,509 --> 00:15:47,040
maybe some of those boardwalk tarot card

336
00:15:51,829 --> 00:15:49,519
readers will do a quick reading exactly

337
00:15:53,509 --> 00:15:51,839
so i figured all right you know what um

338
00:15:55,749 --> 00:15:53,519
let me give it a shot

339
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so i leave his office

340
00:15:59,430 --> 00:15:57,920
i go out to a restaurant i had a date

341
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with a girl

342
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i go into the restaurant right right

343
00:16:06,150 --> 00:16:04,639
after i left his office i sit down

344
00:16:07,590 --> 00:16:06,160
and i'm talking to the girl she goes oh

345
00:16:10,389 --> 00:16:07,600
what'd you do today i said i just went

346
00:16:12,069 --> 00:16:10,399
to see some medium robert hansen and he

347
00:16:13,189 --> 00:16:12,079
told me something crazy like at the end

348
00:16:14,470 --> 00:16:13,199
of the reading

349
00:16:16,790 --> 00:16:14,480
he said that

350
00:16:18,550 --> 00:16:16,800
danny kujak was coming through to me i

351
00:16:19,910 --> 00:16:18,560
said i know the name i go but i don't

352
00:16:21,189 --> 00:16:19,920
know the guy

353
00:16:23,269 --> 00:16:21,199
the girl

354
00:16:25,430 --> 00:16:23,279
dropped her glass

355
00:16:27,350 --> 00:16:25,440
and she goes andrew that was my best

356
00:16:29,509 --> 00:16:27,360
friend

357
00:16:30,790 --> 00:16:29,519
oh that's a little crazy yeah i never

358
00:16:32,389 --> 00:16:30,800
met this girl you know i didn't know the

359
00:16:34,310 --> 00:16:32,399
girl prior didn't know anything about i

360
00:16:35,350 --> 00:16:34,320
just met her on like match.com or some

361
00:16:37,990 --> 00:16:35,360
[\h__\h]

362
00:16:39,990 --> 00:16:38,000
i go whoa that's pretty pretty

363
00:16:42,389 --> 00:16:40,000
interesting that that all happened like

364
00:16:43,990 --> 00:16:42,399
that so i said all right you know but

365
00:16:46,470 --> 00:16:44,000
i'm still not convinced still not over

366
00:16:47,590 --> 00:16:46,480
the top yet at this point so i go on a

367
00:16:49,590 --> 00:16:47,600
saturday

368
00:16:51,910 --> 00:16:49,600
um i start training with the guy i start

369
00:16:53,829 --> 00:16:51,920
sitting with people that i've never met

370
00:16:55,990 --> 00:16:53,839
you'd sit down knee to knee this is

371
00:16:57,749 --> 00:16:56,000
pre-coded obviously way before covert

372
00:17:00,310 --> 00:16:57,759
ten years ago oh yeah you're not sitting

373
00:17:02,870 --> 00:17:00,320
with anybody anymore but yeah of course

374
00:17:05,669 --> 00:17:02,880
so you sit need a knee and he said just

375
00:17:06,630 --> 00:17:05,679
look at the person and say what you're

376
00:17:08,390 --> 00:17:06,640
seeing

377
00:17:09,990 --> 00:17:08,400
and i've never done this before so i'm

378
00:17:12,230 --> 00:17:10,000
like all right

379
00:17:14,309 --> 00:17:12,240
and i would sit with people and i just

380
00:17:15,990 --> 00:17:14,319
look literally like in a meditative

381
00:17:17,189 --> 00:17:16,000
state i'd meditate for a few minutes

382
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five minutes

383
00:17:22,630 --> 00:17:19,679
and then i would start to see

384
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like black and white images

385
00:17:25,429 --> 00:17:24,319
so for example

386
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i would see

387
00:17:29,510 --> 00:17:27,760
a car driving down the block backwards

388
00:17:31,830 --> 00:17:29,520
and it hits a tree and someone gets

389
00:17:34,310 --> 00:17:31,840
ejected out of the car like i would

390
00:17:36,390 --> 00:17:34,320
describe exactly what i'm saying

391
00:17:37,750 --> 00:17:36,400
so i'm just telling people this people

392
00:17:38,710 --> 00:17:37,760
are saying yeah you're accurate you're

393
00:17:40,310 --> 00:17:38,720
accurate

394
00:17:42,150 --> 00:17:40,320
so at first i'm like they're just

395
00:17:43,830 --> 00:17:42,160
telling me this [\h__\h] they just you know

396
00:17:45,590 --> 00:17:43,840
it's it's all nonsense i don't i don't

397
00:17:47,350 --> 00:17:45,600
buy any of it you know way i mean i

398
00:17:49,510 --> 00:17:47,360
could imagine i could imagine you know

399
00:17:52,150 --> 00:17:49,520
20 hours is cheap but if you have 25

400
00:17:53,909 --> 00:17:52,160
students in a in a few hours that's a

401
00:17:56,150 --> 00:17:53,919
good chunk of money

402
00:17:57,990 --> 00:17:56,160
so yeah part part of me would be suspect

403
00:17:59,669 --> 00:17:58,000
like that the guy tells everybody that

404
00:18:01,430 --> 00:17:59,679
they're psychic and then he's

405
00:18:03,590 --> 00:18:01,440
and then he signs him up for the class

406
00:18:04,950 --> 00:18:03,600
or you know but again i don't i haven't

407
00:18:06,470 --> 00:18:04,960
looked into him thoroughly enough to

408
00:18:08,789 --> 00:18:06,480
make a judgment so

409
00:18:12,870 --> 00:18:08,799
for for now i'll let that i'll let my

410
00:18:18,070 --> 00:18:15,270
yeah and it's funny because andrew is

411
00:18:20,549 --> 00:18:18,080
very open to being grilled or anything

412
00:18:22,549 --> 00:18:20,559
and a lot of people with so-called

413
00:18:25,029 --> 00:18:22,559
psychic abilities won't come here or you

414
00:18:27,029 --> 00:18:25,039
know so so hey i'm gonna ask the live

415
00:18:29,430 --> 00:18:27,039
chat because a few people here are very

416
00:18:31,590 --> 00:18:29,440
skeptical as well at least let's be

417
00:18:33,990 --> 00:18:31,600
kind and respectful because

418
00:18:35,990 --> 00:18:34,000
andrew's got balls and he's here he'll

419
00:18:38,390 --> 00:18:36,000
answer questions he'll he'll talk about

420
00:18:40,789 --> 00:18:38,400
his experiences and i'm impressed by

421
00:18:42,470 --> 00:18:40,799
that because uh you know usually to me

422
00:18:44,390 --> 00:18:42,480
the ones that have something to hide run

423
00:18:47,430 --> 00:18:44,400
away from a show like this they don't

424
00:18:48,710 --> 00:18:47,440
want to engage or be tested or

425
00:18:52,070 --> 00:18:48,720
you know

426
00:18:53,750 --> 00:18:52,080
yeah so you start taking these psychic

427
00:18:55,029 --> 00:18:53,760
i didn't mean to interrupt you i'm sorry

428
00:18:57,029 --> 00:18:55,039
you start taking these

429
00:18:58,390 --> 00:18:57,039
sort of classes and how to be a psychic

430
00:19:01,590 --> 00:18:58,400
or a medium

431
00:19:04,150 --> 00:19:01,600
and you start having experiences and do

432
00:19:06,789 --> 00:19:04,160
you start believing this guy's right i

433
00:19:08,630 --> 00:19:06,799
can see things and i have some sort of

434
00:19:10,789 --> 00:19:08,640
abilities here

435
00:19:12,789 --> 00:19:10,799
what really nailed it for me like that

436
00:19:15,110 --> 00:19:12,799
that moment when i finally had that

437
00:19:17,350 --> 00:19:15,120
moment where i said okay

438
00:19:19,830 --> 00:19:17,360
something is going on you know like like

439
00:19:22,870 --> 00:19:19,840
okay this can't be a coincidence

440
00:19:24,789 --> 00:19:22,880
i had met somebody at his class

441
00:19:26,070 --> 00:19:24,799
and outside of class i wanted to get

442
00:19:26,950 --> 00:19:26,080
more training

443
00:19:28,950 --> 00:19:26,960
now

444
00:19:31,029 --> 00:19:28,960
we would read each other in class and

445
00:19:33,430 --> 00:19:31,039
then when when i'm not in class i would

446
00:19:35,350 --> 00:19:33,440
go to work go to the firehouse work my

447
00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:35,360
24 hour shifts

448
00:19:40,150 --> 00:19:37,520
i was an electrician for over 20 years

449
00:19:42,390 --> 00:19:40,160
on the side uh played ice hockey with

450
00:19:45,350 --> 00:19:42,400
the guys football you know basketball

451
00:19:46,470 --> 00:19:45,360
everything so we got a busy life yeah

452
00:19:50,230 --> 00:19:46,480
and then

453
00:19:52,950 --> 00:19:50,240
though that was cool

454
00:19:54,710 --> 00:19:52,960
um and i wasn't charging anyone nothing

455
00:19:56,549 --> 00:19:54,720
none of that [\h__\h] i was just sitting

456
00:19:59,990 --> 00:19:56,559
with people training like trying to

457
00:20:02,230 --> 00:20:00,000
develop this as best as i could and i

458
00:20:04,549 --> 00:20:02,240
started to see that it was having an

459
00:20:06,070 --> 00:20:04,559
effect on people that was positive

460
00:20:07,270 --> 00:20:06,080
like like what happened for me when i

461
00:20:09,110 --> 00:20:07,280
got read

462
00:20:11,750 --> 00:20:09,120
and when i was reading people it was

463
00:20:13,669 --> 00:20:11,760
having that same effect on them so i

464
00:20:16,149 --> 00:20:13,679
said i'm gonna keep doing this

465
00:20:17,669 --> 00:20:16,159
uh i don't you know i'm not in it to

466
00:20:20,470 --> 00:20:17,679
eventually get it and get money and all

467
00:20:22,950 --> 00:20:20,480
that none of that [\h__\h]

468
00:20:25,350 --> 00:20:22,960
i know well you know what to me that was

469
00:20:27,270 --> 00:20:25,360
another indicator i did do a little bit

470
00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:27,280
of initial checking on you to see if you

471
00:20:33,110 --> 00:20:30,480
had a website selling this or you know

472
00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:33,120
and and to me somebody that's not trying

473
00:20:37,430 --> 00:20:35,200
to directly cash in with it is a lot

474
00:20:38,870 --> 00:20:37,440
more credible to me so i'm glad that you

475
00:20:41,029 --> 00:20:38,880
do that because

476
00:20:42,310 --> 00:20:41,039
to many people that means you're not

477
00:20:44,470 --> 00:20:42,320
cashing in

478
00:20:45,990 --> 00:20:44,480
you know you're not uh looking for a

479
00:20:48,950 --> 00:20:46,000
television show

480
00:20:51,190 --> 00:20:48,960
right or given readings for 150 bucks a

481
00:20:52,789 --> 00:20:51,200
pop all day long like some of these

482
00:20:53,909 --> 00:20:52,799
people do

483
00:20:55,029 --> 00:20:53,919
you know

484
00:20:57,350 --> 00:20:55,039
yeah

485
00:20:59,430 --> 00:20:57,360
nah it that's one thing that turned me

486
00:21:02,390 --> 00:20:59,440
off you know like i started doing this

487
00:21:04,390 --> 00:21:02,400
sort of developing this and then you

488
00:21:05,990 --> 00:21:04,400
meet people who say oh you gotta you

489
00:21:07,510 --> 00:21:06,000
gotta do this professionally man you got

490
00:21:09,430 --> 00:21:07,520
it i mean you can make

491
00:21:11,590 --> 00:21:09,440
500 a reading you know whatever these

492
00:21:13,669 --> 00:21:11,600
mediums charge and i said

493
00:21:15,830 --> 00:21:13,679
i work i have the greatest job in the

494
00:21:18,789 --> 00:21:15,840
world i'm a firefighter i make plenty of

495
00:21:21,590 --> 00:21:18,799
money being a fireman i love that i said

496
00:21:23,990 --> 00:21:21,600
i'm not in the psychic stuff for that i

497
00:21:24,789 --> 00:21:24,000
just love doing it i don't care about

498
00:21:25,669 --> 00:21:24,799
that

499
00:21:27,750 --> 00:21:25,679
um

500
00:21:30,230 --> 00:21:27,760
it was just an amazing exchange and

501
00:21:31,110 --> 00:21:30,240
experience that i was having with people

502
00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:31,120
and

503
00:21:35,430 --> 00:21:33,760
i sat with somebody once i met somebody

504
00:21:37,990 --> 00:21:35,440
at the group at like the psychic

505
00:21:39,029 --> 00:21:38,000
development class and outside

506
00:21:40,950 --> 00:21:39,039
after the

507
00:21:42,630 --> 00:21:40,960
group training i said hey let's get

508
00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:42,640
together one night and like

509
00:21:46,549 --> 00:21:44,480
let's strain like i don't know read me

510
00:21:47,830 --> 00:21:46,559
for an hour i'll read you for an hour

511
00:21:49,590 --> 00:21:47,840
you know and then we'll go have coffee

512
00:21:51,590 --> 00:21:49,600
or whatever just to try to develop this

513
00:21:53,990 --> 00:21:51,600
and see what we can do

514
00:21:57,669 --> 00:21:54,000
so i sit with this person

515
00:21:59,270 --> 00:21:57,679
and it's night time and i see

516
00:22:00,630 --> 00:21:59,280
in the room it's dark out it's pitch

517
00:22:03,029 --> 00:22:00,640
black there's just the candle on the

518
00:22:04,870 --> 00:22:03,039
room i could see like a white

519
00:22:06,390 --> 00:22:04,880
one to two foot tall

520
00:22:08,950 --> 00:22:06,400
it looked like something glowing in the

521
00:22:12,630 --> 00:22:08,960
room like like a bowl of energy or light

522
00:22:14,149 --> 00:22:12,640
or whatever or something in there

523
00:22:15,909 --> 00:22:14,159
i don't know exactly what it was i just

524
00:22:18,149 --> 00:22:15,919
saw something there

525
00:22:19,830 --> 00:22:18,159
maybe could be a reflection from a light

526
00:22:20,870 --> 00:22:19,840
outside i don't know just something is

527
00:22:22,789 --> 00:22:20,880
in the room

528
00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:22,799
but i keep reading the person and i'm

529
00:22:26,310 --> 00:22:24,080
saying

530
00:22:29,190 --> 00:22:26,320
i see a holiday weekend like a fourth of

531
00:22:31,430 --> 00:22:29,200
july or memorial day weekend i'm seeing

532
00:22:34,070 --> 00:22:31,440
people gathered you know by like the

533
00:22:36,230 --> 00:22:34,080
water and i'm seeing a boat

534
00:22:38,630 --> 00:22:36,240
and i'm seeing a missing child

535
00:22:40,630 --> 00:22:38,640
and the name begins with a v that's what

536
00:22:41,430 --> 00:22:40,640
i'm seeing

537
00:22:43,190 --> 00:22:41,440
well

538
00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:43,200
the girl i'm reading

539
00:22:48,149 --> 00:22:45,840
she she's she says yeah

540
00:22:50,710 --> 00:22:48,159
she goes my best friend

541
00:22:53,190 --> 00:22:50,720
had a daughter whose name began with a v

542
00:22:54,470 --> 00:22:53,200
it was either victoria or vanessa

543
00:22:56,789 --> 00:22:54,480
whatever it was i don't remember if the

544
00:22:59,110 --> 00:22:56,799
top my head she goes and on a holiday

545
00:23:00,470 --> 00:22:59,120
weekend she was on a boat the boat

546
00:23:02,630 --> 00:23:00,480
flipped

547
00:23:04,710 --> 00:23:02,640
they thought the girl was missing she

548
00:23:06,630 --> 00:23:04,720
wasn't they found her

549
00:23:07,830 --> 00:23:06,640
uh but she was deceased

550
00:23:10,230 --> 00:23:07,840
now

551
00:23:12,630 --> 00:23:10,240
i also saw i said i'm seeing a man with

552
00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:12,640
like an avengers costume on like the big

553
00:23:15,590 --> 00:23:14,320
a on his head like a captain america

554
00:23:18,310 --> 00:23:15,600
type thing

555
00:23:19,990 --> 00:23:18,320
uh and i'm also seeing a little girl

556
00:23:21,430 --> 00:23:20,000
with a pink shirt with like a white

557
00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:21,440
heart on it

558
00:23:24,870 --> 00:23:22,640
so

559
00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:24,880
does that mean anything to you and the

560
00:23:29,110 --> 00:23:26,320
person the reading goes now i don't know

561
00:23:31,029 --> 00:23:29,120
what that means so after the reading

562
00:23:32,630 --> 00:23:31,039
she goes andrew they made a memorial

563
00:23:33,990 --> 00:23:32,640
page for this girl

564
00:23:35,110 --> 00:23:34,000
so i said all right cool you know let's

565
00:23:36,870 --> 00:23:35,120
check it out so we're going through a

566
00:23:39,110 --> 00:23:36,880
memorial page bang

567
00:23:41,029 --> 00:23:39,120
there's a photo of a man

568
00:23:41,830 --> 00:23:41,039
in an avengers costume with a on his

569
00:23:43,350 --> 00:23:41,840
head

570
00:23:45,830 --> 00:23:43,360
i said who is that

571
00:23:48,710 --> 00:23:45,840
she goes oh that was like her her mom's

572
00:23:49,990 --> 00:23:48,720
boyfriend who treated her like his own

573
00:23:51,110 --> 00:23:50,000
i said wow it's pretty interesting

574
00:23:52,630 --> 00:23:51,120
because that's what i saw in the reading

575
00:23:54,070 --> 00:23:52,640
i didn't know who was because i don't

576
00:23:55,909 --> 00:23:54,080
know this person

577
00:23:57,750 --> 00:23:55,919
and then we keep looking through photos

578
00:23:59,350 --> 00:23:57,760
and there's a picture of the girl when

579
00:24:01,029 --> 00:23:59,360
she was still alive

580
00:24:02,470 --> 00:24:01,039
with like the pink shirt with the white

581
00:24:04,149 --> 00:24:02,480
hearts on it

582
00:24:06,310 --> 00:24:04,159
this is stuff i'm seeing in the reading

583
00:24:08,149 --> 00:24:06,320
so i knew at that moment

584
00:24:09,590 --> 00:24:08,159
i knew that something was going on

585
00:24:11,669 --> 00:24:09,600
because i did not

586
00:24:13,909 --> 00:24:11,679
look prior i never have looked prior i

587
00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:13,919
don't do that stuff like i said not in

588
00:24:18,149 --> 00:24:16,480
this for money none of that crap i am

589
00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:18,159
doing this out of the goodness of my

590
00:24:22,390 --> 00:24:20,000
heart and trying to do this to help

591
00:24:25,909 --> 00:24:22,400
people because i know there's a healing

592
00:24:27,510 --> 00:24:25,919
component to this if you do it right

593
00:24:29,669 --> 00:24:27,520
so yeah well see that's a problem that

594
00:24:30,870 --> 00:24:29,679
i've always had with most mediums is

595
00:24:32,950 --> 00:24:30,880
that

596
00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:32,960
they're they're really a lot of them

597
00:24:36,630 --> 00:24:35,440
prey on people's uh grief and things

598
00:24:39,430 --> 00:24:36,640
like that so the fact that you don't

599
00:24:41,510 --> 00:24:39,440
take money yeah i absolutely agree that

600
00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:41,520
whether i believe that somebody's truly

601
00:24:45,510 --> 00:24:43,200
talking to somebody's dead relative or

602
00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:45,520
not i know and have talked to people

603
00:24:49,750 --> 00:24:48,000
that had that medium experience maybe

604
00:24:52,149 --> 00:24:49,760
they had unresolved

605
00:24:54,070 --> 00:24:52,159
conflicts with the deceased person or

606
00:24:56,149 --> 00:24:54,080
you know something that they

607
00:24:58,549 --> 00:24:56,159
that they didn't fix while the person

608
00:25:00,390 --> 00:24:58,559
was alive in their relationship

609
00:25:01,990 --> 00:25:00,400
and many people walk away from a

610
00:25:04,310 --> 00:25:02,000
medium's reading

611
00:25:06,310 --> 00:25:04,320
feeling uh so much better about the

612
00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:06,320
situation so yeah that could be

613
00:25:11,029 --> 00:25:08,080
tremendously healing to people with

614
00:25:12,789 --> 00:25:11,039
especially people with unresolved issues

615
00:25:14,470 --> 00:25:12,799
or in this case maybe the death of a

616
00:25:18,149 --> 00:25:14,480
young child which is

617
00:25:22,549 --> 00:25:20,470
and thank you

618
00:25:23,669 --> 00:25:22,559
kind and generous she sends me mexican

619
00:25:26,070 --> 00:25:23,679
money

620
00:25:28,230 --> 00:25:26,080
and every time she does i go 100

621
00:25:29,350 --> 00:25:28,240
oh wait a minute that's like four bucks

622
00:25:31,110 --> 00:25:29,360
uh

623
00:25:32,630 --> 00:25:31,120
but thank you melissa for your kindness

624
00:25:34,630 --> 00:25:32,640
your generosity and your support we'll

625
00:25:36,230 --> 00:25:34,640
take your mexican pesos

626
00:25:37,990 --> 00:25:36,240
it's okay thank you for your kindness

627
00:25:38,789 --> 00:25:38,000
your generosity and your support of the

628
00:25:39,909 --> 00:25:38,799
show

629
00:25:44,230 --> 00:25:39,919
so

630
00:25:45,750 --> 00:25:44,240
you you become essentially convinced

631
00:25:48,149 --> 00:25:45,760
that there's something to this and it's

632
00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:48,159
not just you know smoking mirrors or

633
00:25:51,669 --> 00:25:49,600
tricks or

634
00:25:52,470 --> 00:25:51,679
that you have some genuine ability and

635
00:25:54,870 --> 00:25:52,480
then

636
00:25:55,669 --> 00:25:54,880
do you go on to try to continue to hone

637
00:25:58,470 --> 00:25:55,679
this

638
00:25:59,269 --> 00:25:58,480
ability and practice and

639
00:26:00,390 --> 00:25:59,279
so

640
00:26:02,390 --> 00:26:00,400
i keep

641
00:26:04,950 --> 00:26:02,400
training on the weekends and then i

642
00:26:06,870 --> 00:26:04,960
start telling some people that i know

643
00:26:08,230 --> 00:26:06,880
and then you know like a friend at work

644
00:26:10,470 --> 00:26:08,240
for example a guy at the full house

645
00:26:13,190 --> 00:26:10,480
would say oh bro can you read me and i

646
00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:13,200
would say i'd rather read your cousin or

647
00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:15,440
your wife or someone that does not know

648
00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:17,360
me at all

649
00:26:21,110 --> 00:26:18,960
because in that way

650
00:26:22,870 --> 00:26:21,120
you could say okay there's no way you

651
00:26:23,590 --> 00:26:22,880
know he could have known that if i read

652
00:26:26,870 --> 00:26:23,600
you

653
00:26:29,430 --> 00:26:26,880
be skeptical and say well he knows this

654
00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:29,440
about me and that about me yeah i once

655
00:26:33,029 --> 00:26:31,440
recently recently had somebody that

656
00:26:35,110 --> 00:26:33,039
wanted to do a psychic reading for me

657
00:26:37,430 --> 00:26:35,120
and i i take all takers if they're

658
00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:37,440
willing to do it but they told me all

659
00:26:41,830 --> 00:26:39,360
things that i know i have mentioned on

660
00:26:43,750 --> 00:26:41,840
my show that i have two children that

661
00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:43,760
and they were like thinking that they

662
00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:45,520
got all these hits and uh and i was

663
00:26:49,590 --> 00:26:47,760
unconvinced because you know enough

664
00:26:52,230 --> 00:26:49,600
about me to make every one of these

665
00:26:54,149 --> 00:26:52,240
statements so you know but uh then there

666
00:26:56,549 --> 00:26:54,159
was another one recently who

667
00:26:58,789 --> 00:26:56,559
gave me a reading that was really spot

668
00:27:00,710 --> 00:26:58,799
on on many different things including

669
00:27:02,549 --> 00:27:00,720
some family history that no one would

670
00:27:04,870 --> 00:27:02,559
know you know like

671
00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:04,880
she basically told me like a

672
00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:06,720
like a dark family secret that i've

673
00:27:11,590 --> 00:27:07,600
never

674
00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:11,600
and she knew intimate details of that so

675
00:27:15,990 --> 00:27:13,760
that was kind of shocking and disturbing

676
00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:16,000
but i agree with you you gotta you gotta

677
00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:18,880
you can't know the person or

678
00:27:22,870 --> 00:27:20,640
the psychics who repeat things that can

679
00:27:25,430 --> 00:27:22,880
be found on social media is another big

680
00:27:27,669 --> 00:27:25,440
thing you know like oh you recently went

681
00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:27,679
on a trip well they just posted that

682
00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:29,760
they were in the bahamas so yeah so i

683
00:27:33,510 --> 00:27:31,840
agree with you with your decision to do

684
00:27:35,590 --> 00:27:33,520
that it's best if you're reading people

685
00:27:37,590 --> 00:27:35,600
that you've never met you know nothing

686
00:27:39,909 --> 00:27:37,600
about before you get there

687
00:27:41,669 --> 00:27:39,919
that's the true test for me for some for

688
00:27:43,029 --> 00:27:41,679
some of somebody claiming to have these

689
00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:43,039
abilities

690
00:27:48,389 --> 00:27:44,799
so you continue to give readings for

691
00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:48,399
friends family and and things like that

692
00:27:51,990 --> 00:27:50,159
yeah and preferably like i said

693
00:27:53,669 --> 00:27:52,000
preferably strangers or friends of

694
00:27:54,389 --> 00:27:53,679
friends so that way i don't know them at

695
00:27:57,269 --> 00:27:54,399
all

696
00:28:01,590 --> 00:27:57,279
and in the meantime as well

697
00:28:04,389 --> 00:28:01,600
um in 1999 i was in the coast guard

698
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:04,399
and i had a ufo sighting

699
00:28:08,070 --> 00:28:06,480
so i was 19 years old

700
00:28:11,110 --> 00:28:08,080
i was down in the gulf of mexico

701
00:28:13,669 --> 00:28:11,120
caribbean that area was the lone

702
00:28:16,389 --> 00:28:13,679
night watchman on top of a 210 foot

703
00:28:19,750 --> 00:28:16,399
medium endurance cutter so decent sized

704
00:28:22,710 --> 00:28:19,760
boat 70 70. that's a big boat yeah two

705
00:28:24,310 --> 00:28:22,720
members on the boat 72 total so i'm the

706
00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:24,320
night watchman

707
00:28:27,029 --> 00:28:25,360
and

708
00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:27,039
this is old school this is late 90s you

709
00:28:30,549 --> 00:28:28,320
know the technology now is probably

710
00:28:33,350 --> 00:28:30,559
incredible uh but back then we had like

711
00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:33,360
you know regular binoculars and old

712
00:28:37,269 --> 00:28:34,480
oh yeah

713
00:28:39,110 --> 00:28:37,279
i mean you know horrible so

714
00:28:41,510 --> 00:28:39,120
i remember seeing out to the left i

715
00:28:44,310 --> 00:28:41,520
looked and i saw two silver objects and

716
00:28:45,909 --> 00:28:44,320
they was they were staggered so not with

717
00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:45,919
each other just slightly off they're

718
00:28:47,909 --> 00:28:46,799
moving

719
00:28:49,029 --> 00:28:47,919
so i'm thinking it's got to be a

720
00:28:50,950 --> 00:28:49,039
satellite

721
00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:50,960
so i call down to the bridge

722
00:28:55,029 --> 00:28:52,720
and call down below and said oh i'm you

723
00:28:57,269 --> 00:28:55,039
know whatever 20 degrees or whatever it

724
00:28:59,029 --> 00:28:57,279
was i got two objects

725
00:29:00,389 --> 00:28:59,039
well the radar men had nothing on his

726
00:29:02,389 --> 00:29:00,399
radar

727
00:29:03,430 --> 00:29:02,399
so that's impossible

728
00:29:04,470 --> 00:29:03,440
impossible

729
00:29:06,310 --> 00:29:04,480
so

730
00:29:07,590 --> 00:29:06,320
officer comes up another officer comes

731
00:29:09,350 --> 00:29:07,600
up next thing i know the waking the

732
00:29:11,669 --> 00:29:09,360
captain of the boat up

733
00:29:13,909 --> 00:29:11,679
and there's 20 something people up and

734
00:29:16,149 --> 00:29:13,919
we're all looking at these two objects

735
00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:16,159
moving in a formation they look like

736
00:29:20,310 --> 00:29:18,559
they were going together you know like a

737
00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:20,320
little stagger but they just kept moving

738
00:29:25,669 --> 00:29:23,440
moving moving and then maybe 10

739
00:29:26,630 --> 00:29:25,679
15 minutes later it's hard to tell the

740
00:29:28,870 --> 00:29:26,640
time

741
00:29:30,230 --> 00:29:28,880
it happened so fast yet it was so slow

742
00:29:33,190 --> 00:29:30,240
it was weird

743
00:29:35,669 --> 00:29:33,200
the objects eventually came together and

744
00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:35,679
when they came together they merged as

745
00:29:41,590 --> 00:29:37,120
one

746
00:29:44,070 --> 00:29:41,600
and then they vanished no trail no trace

747
00:29:47,190 --> 00:29:44,080
no direction they touched it's like they

748
00:29:48,310 --> 00:29:47,200
literally formed into one piece and then

749
00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:48,320
gone

750
00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:53,110
i was a 19 year old kid you know i was

751
00:29:57,990 --> 00:29:55,200
like what the [\h__\h] is that you know it's

752
00:30:00,710 --> 00:29:58,000
crazy and you know i had senior officers

753
00:30:02,870 --> 00:30:00,720
come up 20 plus years in the military

754
00:30:04,710 --> 00:30:02,880
and they were like holy [\h__\h] but we all

755
00:30:06,549 --> 00:30:04,720
saw it you know no doubt about it we all

756
00:30:08,070 --> 00:30:06,559
saw something strange we couldn't

757
00:30:10,310 --> 00:30:08,080
describe

758
00:30:11,990 --> 00:30:10,320
um the next day

759
00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:12,000
no one mentioned a word about it i was

760
00:30:15,909 --> 00:30:13,760
never debriefed i was never told don't

761
00:30:16,870 --> 00:30:15,919
talk about it that's why i am talking

762
00:30:18,789 --> 00:30:16,880
about it

763
00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:18,799
so one thing to keep in mind too i know

764
00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:20,640
you get a lot of guests on

765
00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:22,960
when people talk about things

766
00:30:26,070 --> 00:30:23,919
um

767
00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:26,080
if you were told to not talk about

768
00:30:29,269 --> 00:30:27,120
something

769
00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:29,279
you're not talking about it

770
00:30:32,149 --> 00:30:30,559
there's no way

771
00:30:32,950 --> 00:30:32,159
yeah no way

772
00:30:35,669 --> 00:30:32,960
so

773
00:30:38,389 --> 00:30:35,679
these big shots out there ex-military

774
00:30:40,549 --> 00:30:38,399
government blah blah blah i seen this i

775
00:30:43,029 --> 00:30:40,559
seen that i have a clearance

776
00:30:44,389 --> 00:30:43,039
if you broke that clearance that person

777
00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:44,399
wouldn't be here they'd be gone they'd

778
00:30:48,230 --> 00:30:46,320
be in the brig forever yeah well that's

779
00:30:49,909 --> 00:30:48,240
not that's not i love these guys they're

780
00:30:52,149 --> 00:30:49,919
telling everybody they have top secret

781
00:30:53,830 --> 00:30:52,159
information but they never get arrested

782
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:53,840
i mean that's the perfect indicator for

783
00:30:57,029 --> 00:30:55,440
why they don't have anything

784
00:30:59,029 --> 00:30:57,039
because you know look what happened

785
00:31:01,350 --> 00:30:59,039
there these people

786
00:31:03,750 --> 00:31:01,360
a few years ago the term whistleblower

787
00:31:05,590 --> 00:31:03,760
invaded the ufo space and everybody was

788
00:31:06,389 --> 00:31:05,600
suddenly a whistleblower and the truth

789
00:31:11,190 --> 00:31:06,399
is

790
00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:11,200
you know snowden has consequences as

791
00:31:15,509 --> 00:31:13,840
julian assange has huge consequences

792
00:31:16,470 --> 00:31:15,519
these people running around telling ufo

793
00:31:17,990 --> 00:31:16,480
stories

794
00:31:18,870 --> 00:31:18,000
they never have any consequences so

795
00:31:22,549 --> 00:31:18,880
that's

796
00:31:23,750 --> 00:31:22,559
that that they don't have top secret

797
00:31:25,669 --> 00:31:23,760
nothing

798
00:31:27,190 --> 00:31:25,679
you know it's just it's it's ufo

799
00:31:28,950 --> 00:31:27,200
attainment you know

800
00:31:31,750 --> 00:31:28,960
so you've had these

801
00:31:33,350 --> 00:31:31,760
sort of uh ufo experiences and then

802
00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:33,360
later in life you have this experience

803
00:31:37,190 --> 00:31:34,720
with the medium and you start getting

804
00:31:38,549 --> 00:31:37,200
psychic readings at some point

805
00:31:39,909 --> 00:31:38,559
i suppose

806
00:31:43,750 --> 00:31:39,919
many people believe that all these

807
00:31:45,590 --> 00:31:43,760
phenomena are related demons ghosts ufos

808
00:31:47,590 --> 00:31:45,600
you know spirits

809
00:31:48,470 --> 00:31:47,600
at some point do you kind of bring all

810
00:31:50,710 --> 00:31:48,480
those

811
00:31:52,549 --> 00:31:50,720
together because you're having a lot of

812
00:31:55,909 --> 00:31:52,559
different experiences right so how does

813
00:31:59,190 --> 00:31:55,919
that work to bring this stuff all in

814
00:32:00,710 --> 00:31:59,200
into some form of semblance of sense for

815
00:32:02,549 --> 00:32:00,720
you because

816
00:32:05,110 --> 00:32:02,559
your story is interesting because i can

817
00:32:06,950 --> 00:32:05,120
imagine you know a bunch of like macho

818
00:32:09,190 --> 00:32:06,960
firefighters hearing about you like

819
00:32:10,870 --> 00:32:09,200
talking to aliens and dead people and

820
00:32:13,029 --> 00:32:10,880
giving psychic readings and busting your

821
00:32:14,870 --> 00:32:13,039
balls all week and then on the weekend

822
00:32:16,149 --> 00:32:14,880
you're trying real hard to develop this

823
00:32:18,789 --> 00:32:16,159
talent

824
00:32:20,310 --> 00:32:18,799
it's pretty interesting

825
00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:20,320
yeah um

826
00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:21,840
everyone has their own thing in the

827
00:32:26,230 --> 00:32:24,080
firehouse you know some guys are into

828
00:32:27,430 --> 00:32:26,240
sports or carpentry or whatever like i

829
00:32:28,710 --> 00:32:27,440
didn't miss out on anything i did

830
00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:28,720
everything with the guys i was always

831
00:32:32,310 --> 00:32:30,640
part of everything i wasn't the weirdo

832
00:32:34,950 --> 00:32:32,320
in the corner that vanished from you

833
00:32:38,230 --> 00:32:34,960
know i was always right

834
00:32:41,590 --> 00:32:38,240
you know so like like that's right they

835
00:32:45,029 --> 00:32:41,600
they took a a green alien blow up doll

836
00:32:46,870 --> 00:32:45,039
and they wrapped it around my locker

837
00:32:48,789 --> 00:32:46,880
yeah they bust balls i'm sure they bust

838
00:32:52,310 --> 00:32:48,799
your balls hey everybody andrew's going

839
00:32:55,669 --> 00:32:52,320
to tell us her future come on over here

840
00:32:58,149 --> 00:32:55,679
oh that accent oh i get it

841
00:32:59,750 --> 00:32:58,159
i you know the the longer i'm away from

842
00:33:01,830 --> 00:32:59,760
philadelphia though it's fading but i

843
00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:01,840
have a big thick philly accent so you

844
00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:03,600
could you new yorkers are worse than us

845
00:33:06,310 --> 00:33:05,440
though

846
00:33:08,070 --> 00:33:06,320
well

847
00:33:09,350 --> 00:33:08,080
you know they and that's how you know

848
00:33:11,190 --> 00:33:09,360
they love you and accept you when

849
00:33:13,029 --> 00:33:11,200
they're breaking your chops that's a

850
00:33:14,710 --> 00:33:13,039
good thing when they stop breaking yeah

851
00:33:16,549 --> 00:33:14,720
well that's what i always tell men is

852
00:33:18,549 --> 00:33:16,559
like it's a sign of affection between

853
00:33:20,310 --> 00:33:18,559
men if they bust your balls it means

854
00:33:22,070 --> 00:33:20,320
that they like you you know

855
00:33:23,509 --> 00:33:22,080
women sometimes don't understand that

856
00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:23,519
like oh why are you gonna bust his balls

857
00:33:27,830 --> 00:33:25,440
like that because because that's what we

858
00:33:29,269 --> 00:33:27,840
do you know but at some point you begin

859
00:33:31,750 --> 00:33:29,279
to bring

860
00:33:34,070 --> 00:33:31,760
some more of these phenomenon together

861
00:33:36,830 --> 00:33:34,080
in a sort of unified way and just accept

862
00:33:39,909 --> 00:33:36,840
did you just accept it okay i'm going to

863
00:33:41,909 --> 00:33:39,919
see aliens i'm gonna see ufos i'm gonna

864
00:33:43,750 --> 00:33:41,919
see dead people i'm gonna see demons

865
00:33:44,630 --> 00:33:43,760
it's all related right

866
00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:44,640
yep

867
00:33:48,549 --> 00:33:46,799
so in 2011

868
00:33:50,149 --> 00:33:48,559
i tracked down

869
00:33:52,149 --> 00:33:50,159
dr stephen greer

870
00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:52,159
found out that he was due claiming that

871
00:33:57,430 --> 00:33:54,320
he could proactively

872
00:33:58,710 --> 00:33:57,440
make ufos and everything else ufo's yeah

873
00:34:00,230 --> 00:33:58,720
i'm glad to go to talk about this

874
00:34:01,990 --> 00:34:00,240
because i'm very skeptical and i'd love

875
00:34:03,509 --> 00:34:02,000
to hear from somebody that's more of a

876
00:34:06,149 --> 00:34:03,519
believer

877
00:34:08,230 --> 00:34:06,159
so at the time at the time my partner

878
00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:08,240
was a new york city police officer

879
00:34:12,149 --> 00:34:10,240
so she was

880
00:34:13,909 --> 00:34:12,159
pretty well trained observer right

881
00:34:16,149 --> 00:34:13,919
decent i would say myself being a

882
00:34:18,869 --> 00:34:16,159
fireman were pretty well trained at

883
00:34:20,550 --> 00:34:18,879
observing danger and things so

884
00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:20,560
you know i'm being skeptical from new

885
00:34:24,470 --> 00:34:22,320
york everything is [\h__\h] everyone's

886
00:34:26,470 --> 00:34:24,480
full of [\h__\h] of course you know that so

887
00:34:27,990 --> 00:34:26,480
all right let's see i said this guy's

888
00:34:29,990 --> 00:34:28,000
claiming that he could teach you how to

889
00:34:32,069 --> 00:34:30,000
meditate and make these things appear i

890
00:34:32,950 --> 00:34:32,079
don't believe him i don't

891
00:34:34,710 --> 00:34:32,960
but

892
00:34:36,470 --> 00:34:34,720
me and her were really curious about it

893
00:34:38,550 --> 00:34:36,480
and i never forget the sighting i had in

894
00:34:39,909 --> 00:34:38,560
the military it sticks with you when you

895
00:34:42,149 --> 00:34:39,919
have something like that happen and you

896
00:34:44,629 --> 00:34:42,159
see that [\h__\h] and you can't explain it

897
00:34:46,550 --> 00:34:44,639
it never sure yeah i i had experience

898
00:34:49,270 --> 00:34:46,560
when i was 10 years old so when people

899
00:34:51,190 --> 00:34:49,280
are are so dismissive i say well if you

900
00:34:53,270 --> 00:34:51,200
had seen what i saw you would be a lot

901
00:34:54,069 --> 00:34:53,280
more interested in the topic as well

902
00:34:55,829 --> 00:34:54,079
sure

903
00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:55,839
it becomes you become obsessed with it

904
00:34:59,910 --> 00:34:56,800
because you

905
00:35:03,349 --> 00:34:59,920
it feels like the the the the walls or

906
00:35:04,390 --> 00:35:03,359
the veil of reality got pulled real thin

907
00:35:06,390 --> 00:35:04,400
for you

908
00:35:07,990 --> 00:35:06,400
and and after having an experience you

909
00:35:08,950 --> 00:35:08,000
kind of accept that like some things

910
00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:08,960
you're just not going to be able to

911
00:35:13,510 --> 00:35:10,800
explain so sure i understand the

912
00:35:16,150 --> 00:35:13,520
interest absolutely

913
00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:16,160
yeah and i so we fly out to borrego

914
00:35:21,190 --> 00:35:18,960
springs for the week we pull up uh to

915
00:35:22,470 --> 00:35:21,200
grace like house that he rented out i

916
00:35:24,630 --> 00:35:22,480
walk in the door

917
00:35:28,710 --> 00:35:24,640
um first person i see is dr stephen

918
00:35:30,550 --> 00:35:28,720
greer next person i see is emery smith

919
00:35:33,510 --> 00:35:30,560
oh let me let me ask you two things

920
00:35:35,270 --> 00:35:33,520
first of all how expensive was that to

921
00:35:37,510 --> 00:35:35,280
to pay greer for

922
00:35:38,790 --> 00:35:37,520
if you remember the price and do you

923
00:35:40,470 --> 00:35:38,800
have to sign

924
00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:40,480
there's been various reports from people

925
00:35:43,990 --> 00:35:42,400
that when you go to a an event with him

926
00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:44,000
you have to sign a non-disclosure

927
00:35:48,790 --> 00:35:47,040
agreement which to me is crazy mr

928
00:35:51,510 --> 00:35:48,800
disclosure is going to make you sign an

929
00:35:52,710 --> 00:35:51,520
nda or you can't come and be a part of

930
00:35:53,990 --> 00:35:52,720
this thing

931
00:35:55,589 --> 00:35:54,000
but other people have told me that

932
00:35:56,790 --> 00:35:55,599
that's not the case i don't know if it's

933
00:35:59,990 --> 00:35:56,800
some events

934
00:36:01,829 --> 00:36:00,000
he makes people sign and some he doesn't

935
00:36:03,990 --> 00:36:01,839
no that's 100 true

936
00:36:05,829 --> 00:36:04,000
so you have to sign an nda and what did

937
00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:05,839
it cost for the week do you know it was

938
00:36:09,910 --> 00:36:07,920
like a week-long thing

939
00:36:12,630 --> 00:36:09,920
for the two of us the week everything

940
00:36:15,589 --> 00:36:12,640
i'd say was five grand but wow you know

941
00:36:17,829 --> 00:36:15,599
we flew from new york to cali hotel air

942
00:36:23,270 --> 00:36:17,839
rent-a-car all that [\h__\h]

943
00:36:27,589 --> 00:36:24,069
yeah

944
00:36:29,510 --> 00:36:27,599
i think you you're muted somehow

945
00:36:36,870 --> 00:36:29,520
andrew you're muted i didn't mute you

946
00:36:46,390 --> 00:36:38,470
maybe you

947
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,870
hmm

948
00:36:57,030 --> 00:36:50,950
i apologize we're having some technical

949
00:37:02,150 --> 00:36:59,349
can he say something

950
00:37:07,510 --> 00:37:02,160
we'll see if you're still muted

951
00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:09,670
oh so we lost andrew but i'm sure he'll

952
00:37:13,349 --> 00:37:11,920
be back along once he figures out his

953
00:37:15,109 --> 00:37:13,359
issues

954
00:37:17,109 --> 00:37:15,119
interesting guest with a lot of

955
00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:17,119
interesting experiences

956
00:37:20,310 --> 00:37:18,880
and uh i'm having a hard time figuring

957
00:37:24,230 --> 00:37:20,320
out how we're going to unpack this all

958
00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:24,240
but i sure would like to hear his uh

959
00:37:28,950 --> 00:37:26,320
andrew gambino says mention grier and

960
00:37:31,990 --> 00:37:28,960
[\h__\h] happens yeah

961
00:37:33,990 --> 00:37:32,000
it's the machine elves v says yeah maybe

962
00:37:36,390 --> 00:37:34,000
or maybe grier's trying to stop him from

963
00:37:37,990 --> 00:37:36,400
spilling the beans right but i i believe

964
00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:38,000
that he's more or less a career

965
00:37:41,030 --> 00:37:39,359
supporter

966
00:37:43,589 --> 00:37:41,040
but let me uh

967
00:37:45,750 --> 00:37:43,599
i'm going to shoot on over to facebook

968
00:37:47,670 --> 00:37:45,760
and tell him if you can't reconnect so

969
00:37:48,829 --> 00:37:47,680
we can continue here

970
00:37:53,109 --> 00:37:48,839
auto might

971
00:37:55,430 --> 00:37:53,119
gain audio in and out no i don't know

972
00:37:56,550 --> 00:37:55,440
let me go over to facebook and let him

973
00:38:00,550 --> 00:37:56,560
know to

974
00:38:04,230 --> 00:38:02,710
one second friends just bear with me i

975
00:38:05,670 --> 00:38:04,240
always say this you get the show warts

976
00:38:08,230 --> 00:38:05,680
at all that means sometimes you're going

977
00:38:11,349 --> 00:38:08,240
to have uh difficult

978
00:38:12,710 --> 00:38:11,359
technical challenges

979
00:38:16,829 --> 00:38:12,720
i knew that things were going a little

980
00:38:22,710 --> 00:38:20,950
well gonna try to log on again same link

981
00:38:25,190 --> 00:38:22,720
i'm gonna link again just to be sure

982
00:38:27,270 --> 00:38:25,200
that we have it

983
00:38:32,950 --> 00:38:27,280
just to be sure that he has it

984
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,470
you don't know what happened there

985
00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:38,550
i'm going to blame stephen greer or the

986
00:38:42,550 --> 00:38:40,960
machine elves right yeah on the right

987
00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:42,560
says leave us alone greer we want to

988
00:38:47,109 --> 00:38:44,880
hear this story it was just just when it

989
00:38:50,950 --> 00:38:47,119
was getting good too right just when it

990
00:38:54,870 --> 00:38:53,190
madam two swords is here welcome adam

991
00:38:57,349 --> 00:38:54,880
two swords

992
00:38:58,829 --> 00:38:57,359
gunner 65 says mention emery smith and

993
00:39:01,910 --> 00:38:58,839
[\h__\h] happens

994
00:39:03,670 --> 00:39:01,920
yeah spooky says i would like to see

995
00:39:05,589 --> 00:39:03,680
some of the proof he says he has well

996
00:39:10,950 --> 00:39:05,599
he's got a whole youtube channel full of

997
00:39:16,790 --> 00:39:14,310
well i think we

998
00:39:18,470 --> 00:39:16,800
now i can hear you awesome there we go

999
00:39:20,230 --> 00:39:18,480
um yes so

1000
00:39:21,510 --> 00:39:20,240
that's steven greer in the deep state

1001
00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:21,520
trying to stop you from telling your

1002
00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:24,240
story i'm convinced good luck okay so we

1003
00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:26,160
left off you you go to this event with

1004
00:39:29,990 --> 00:39:28,000
grier and then and then you've got to

1005
00:39:30,950 --> 00:39:30,000
sign an nda which

1006
00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:30,960
okay

1007
00:39:35,030 --> 00:39:33,119
so he basically honestly you sign this

1008
00:39:36,630 --> 00:39:35,040
document that states basically if you

1009
00:39:40,630 --> 00:39:36,640
get killed

1010
00:39:45,349 --> 00:39:40,640
or abducted that he's not responsible

1011
00:39:49,430 --> 00:39:47,589
is isn't it also that people like they

1012
00:39:51,510 --> 00:39:49,440
collect cell phones and nobody's allowed

1013
00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:51,520
to film it what's going on i don't know

1014
00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:54,000
what's happening no okay well i heard

1015
00:39:57,030 --> 00:39:55,200
not at all

1016
00:39:59,589 --> 00:39:57,040
at least not when i went in 2011. so you

1017
00:40:01,829 --> 00:39:59,599
go there oh this is a while ago yeah

1018
00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:01,839
uh maybe now i have no idea but back

1019
00:40:06,150 --> 00:40:04,240
then now you just went and

1020
00:40:08,470 --> 00:40:06,160
um you go there

1021
00:40:11,270 --> 00:40:08,480
you sit outside at night under the stars

1022
00:40:13,829 --> 00:40:11,280
he teaches you to see five protocols

1023
00:40:14,710 --> 00:40:13,839
meditate the first night there nothing

1024
00:40:16,390 --> 00:40:14,720
happened

1025
00:40:17,270 --> 00:40:16,400
nothing zero

1026
00:40:19,430 --> 00:40:17,280
um

1027
00:40:21,510 --> 00:40:19,440
i get back to my hotel room at about two

1028
00:40:23,589 --> 00:40:21,520
in the morning i wake up

1029
00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:23,599
i see a green light in the room like a

1030
00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:25,680
flash on a camera

1031
00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:26,560
and

1032
00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:27,680
i get up

1033
00:40:32,069 --> 00:40:30,400
i go over to it it's gone and i woke my

1034
00:40:33,430 --> 00:40:32,079
partner up i said you see that she goes

1035
00:40:34,550 --> 00:40:33,440
yeah

1036
00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:34,560
and then

1037
00:40:38,309 --> 00:40:36,960
i'm like but it's gone now [\h__\h] i go sit

1038
00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:38,319
back down in the bed boom the thing

1039
00:40:43,109 --> 00:40:41,520
reappears then it moves a couple feet up

1040
00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:43,119
so we just sat

1041
00:40:46,870 --> 00:40:45,119
sat there let the thing stay

1042
00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:46,880
and for a few hours

1043
00:40:51,190 --> 00:40:49,040
until the sun came up this object just

1044
00:40:53,109 --> 00:40:51,200
flashed every i don't know minute two

1045
00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:53,119
minutes there was no smoke detectors in

1046
00:40:56,550 --> 00:40:54,960
the room we were in the [\h__\h] desert

1047
00:40:58,230 --> 00:40:56,560
in the middle of nowhere you know what i

1048
00:41:00,550 --> 00:40:58,240
mean there's no outside lights no no

1049
00:41:02,069 --> 00:41:00,560
nothing nothing so

1050
00:41:04,470 --> 00:41:02,079
i don't know what it was

1051
00:41:07,829 --> 00:41:04,480
um but something was in the room right

1052
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:07,839
and from that moment on

1053
00:41:12,630 --> 00:41:10,160
uh i've had contact

1054
00:41:14,710 --> 00:41:12,640
every single day

1055
00:41:17,030 --> 00:41:14,720
of my life that i've tried to

1056
00:41:18,790 --> 00:41:17,040
so well that's interesting and so you

1057
00:41:21,430 --> 00:41:18,800
think that these

1058
00:41:23,589 --> 00:41:21,440
are you aware that most of the protocols

1059
00:41:25,910 --> 00:41:23,599
that he sells

1060
00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:25,920
and his and is teaching people it's just

1061
00:41:29,829 --> 00:41:28,480
transcendental meditation

1062
00:41:32,309 --> 00:41:29,839
oh yeah yeah

1063
00:41:37,589 --> 00:41:34,870
i got certified in tm and all that too

1064
00:41:39,910 --> 00:41:37,599
um yeah you believe that these so-called

1065
00:41:41,910 --> 00:41:39,920
ce5 protocols work

1066
00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:41,920
but do you believe that anybody can do

1067
00:41:45,910 --> 00:41:43,680
it or maybe just

1068
00:41:48,309 --> 00:41:45,920
some people that have a gift can do it

1069
00:41:49,829 --> 00:41:48,319
and others can't because i i hear from a

1070
00:41:52,150 --> 00:41:49,839
lot of people that bought the app and

1071
00:41:55,990 --> 00:41:52,160
they go nothing happened i tried for

1072
00:41:58,790 --> 00:41:56,000
weeks and i never saw anything you know

1073
00:42:00,870 --> 00:41:58,800
so yeah i can tell you this so we'll get

1074
00:42:04,069 --> 00:42:00,880
into this in a little bit but i

1075
00:42:05,829 --> 00:42:04,079
use the ce5 app that greer has and i'll

1076
00:42:06,950 --> 00:42:05,839
use it with my

1077
00:42:09,750 --> 00:42:06,960
14

1078
00:42:10,630 --> 00:42:09,760
and 13 year old kids

1079
00:42:14,150 --> 00:42:10,640
so

1080
00:42:18,069 --> 00:42:15,750
my wife does it

1081
00:42:20,550 --> 00:42:18,079
doesn't matter people i've met

1082
00:42:22,870 --> 00:42:20,560
anyone can do this i just think like

1083
00:42:24,069 --> 00:42:22,880
anything it's not for everyone

1084
00:42:27,990 --> 00:42:24,079
so

1085
00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:28,000
the mothership's gonna come and land

1086
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:30,480
right in the yard let me tell you if

1087
00:42:33,190 --> 00:42:31,680
that happened

1088
00:42:35,270 --> 00:42:33,200
i'd be the first one to probably [\h__\h] my

1089
00:42:37,510 --> 00:42:35,280
pants so i don't know if that's gonna

1090
00:42:39,750 --> 00:42:37,520
happen right away

1091
00:42:42,829 --> 00:42:39,760
you know slowly maybe

1092
00:42:45,750 --> 00:42:42,839
as you develop your abilities maybe over

1093
00:42:47,349 --> 00:42:45,760
time maybe maybe you think maybe it'll

1094
00:42:49,270 --> 00:42:47,359
start to you know you'll get more and

1095
00:42:51,349 --> 00:42:49,280
more contact over time but maybe not

1096
00:42:53,190 --> 00:42:51,359
right away as you expect

1097
00:42:55,190 --> 00:42:53,200
but yeah anyone can use this [\h__\h] you

1098
00:42:56,790 --> 00:42:55,200
don't have to go spend five grand and

1099
00:42:59,910 --> 00:42:56,800
spend the weekend career

1100
00:43:01,510 --> 00:42:59,920
um when i came back from grier i met a

1101
00:43:03,430 --> 00:43:01,520
well i have to admire that as a

1102
00:43:05,270 --> 00:43:03,440
commitment i mean if you're that

1103
00:43:06,870 --> 00:43:05,280
interested that's a big commitment by

1104
00:43:08,390 --> 00:43:06,880
dropping 5k

1105
00:43:10,870 --> 00:43:08,400
so that you could learn this uh

1106
00:43:13,829 --> 00:43:10,880
so-called ce well i i knew this i tell

1107
00:43:15,670 --> 00:43:13,839
you steve it's like anything i i know

1108
00:43:17,589 --> 00:43:15,680
with learning a system

1109
00:43:19,589 --> 00:43:17,599
whether it's being a new person in the

1110
00:43:20,870 --> 00:43:19,599
firehouse or you know you're a new

1111
00:43:22,630 --> 00:43:20,880
electrician

1112
00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:22,640
you probably want to stick with somebody

1113
00:43:27,030 --> 00:43:24,880
that has 20 years experience in this

1114
00:43:28,790 --> 00:43:27,040
field you don't want to go with somebody

1115
00:43:31,430 --> 00:43:28,800
that's been doing it for two months you

1116
00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:31,440
know what i mean so with this thing

1117
00:43:36,069 --> 00:43:34,000
claiming he could contact et's

1118
00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:36,079
i wanted to go to the source as much as

1119
00:43:40,309 --> 00:43:38,160
i could the person that claims

1120
00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:40,319
you know and what really attracted me

1121
00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:42,720
was he had all these ex-military people

1122
00:43:46,550 --> 00:43:45,280
being ex-military i said well

1123
00:43:48,790 --> 00:43:46,560
all right if he's got all these

1124
00:43:51,270 --> 00:43:48,800
ex-military guys i want to meet these

1125
00:43:53,829 --> 00:43:51,280
people and usually ex-military are sort

1126
00:43:55,750 --> 00:43:53,839
of no-nonsense guys they're not usually

1127
00:43:58,870 --> 00:43:55,760
abortion usually yeah my dad was

1128
00:44:00,950 --> 00:43:58,880
ex-military he was he was hardcore

1129
00:44:04,230 --> 00:44:00,960
but he was more of the uh skeptic like

1130
00:44:06,829 --> 00:44:04,240
that's all horseshit steve you know

1131
00:44:10,309 --> 00:44:06,839
as those guys tend to run skeptical you

1132
00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:10,319
know yeah well like i said emery emery

1133
00:44:12,870 --> 00:44:11,920
smith was there where i'm sure you know

1134
00:44:15,030 --> 00:44:12,880
very well

1135
00:44:16,470 --> 00:44:15,040
um

1136
00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:16,480
when i met him

1137
00:44:21,430 --> 00:44:18,880
when i met emery in 2011

1138
00:44:23,109 --> 00:44:21,440
uh he was one of the people showing us

1139
00:44:25,829 --> 00:44:23,119
how to do the protocols

1140
00:44:28,630 --> 00:44:25,839
he was very nice he was friendly

1141
00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:28,640
uh and then a guy showed up an actor you

1142
00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:30,000
probably know of

1143
00:44:37,270 --> 00:44:34,950
from punisher

1144
00:44:40,150 --> 00:44:37,280
uh thomas jane showed up and spent the

1145
00:44:41,190 --> 00:44:40,160
week with us doing ce5 agree

1146
00:44:42,950 --> 00:44:41,200
so

1147
00:44:44,950 --> 00:44:42,960
that was really cool he was a great guy

1148
00:44:46,870 --> 00:44:44,960
he was totally cool man we talked a lot

1149
00:44:48,230 --> 00:44:46,880
he was a cool cool dude he had some wild

1150
00:44:51,270 --> 00:44:48,240
experiences

1151
00:44:53,910 --> 00:44:51,280
with et's um he had a download

1152
00:44:55,829 --> 00:44:53,920
experience a crap you never know you

1153
00:44:58,870 --> 00:44:55,839
never know who's deep into this stuff

1154
00:45:01,510 --> 00:44:58,880
until you damn it let me tell you

1155
00:45:04,309 --> 00:45:01,520
yes oh yeah the punishers hanging out

1156
00:45:05,670 --> 00:45:04,319
with aliens makes sense you know i met

1157
00:45:07,430 --> 00:45:05,680
some people that would blow you away

1158
00:45:09,270 --> 00:45:07,440
that you'd never expect that we'll never

1159
00:45:11,510 --> 00:45:09,280
talk about it oh don't ever tell anyone

1160
00:45:14,870 --> 00:45:11,520
you know keep this between us i respect

1161
00:45:16,950 --> 00:45:14,880
that you know no problem uh thomas jane

1162
00:45:19,349 --> 00:45:16,960
he had a craft land and they were

1163
00:45:20,550 --> 00:45:19,359
showing all sorts of hieroglyphic images

1164
00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:20,560
to him

1165
00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:22,560
communicating with him telepathically he

1166
00:45:27,270 --> 00:45:25,280
had all sorts of crazy interactions and

1167
00:45:28,630 --> 00:45:27,280
then he tracked down grier to help make

1168
00:45:30,150 --> 00:45:28,640
sense of this [\h__\h]

1169
00:45:31,589 --> 00:45:30,160
and grace said hey come spend the week

1170
00:45:33,589 --> 00:45:31,599
with us

1171
00:45:34,790 --> 00:45:33,599
and then being from new york being a

1172
00:45:36,150 --> 00:45:34,800
firefighter

1173
00:45:38,470 --> 00:45:36,160
he didn't talk to anybody in the group

1174
00:45:40,309 --> 00:45:38,480
except me and my partner who was a cop

1175
00:45:42,309 --> 00:45:40,319
uh he just said i i trust you guys you

1176
00:45:43,990 --> 00:45:42,319
know for whatever reason and we talked

1177
00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:44,000
and exchanged things so

1178
00:45:47,670 --> 00:45:45,200
there's people out there you'd never

1179
00:45:48,870 --> 00:45:47,680
expect that have had weird experiences

1180
00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:48,880
so

1181
00:45:53,589 --> 00:45:50,880
it never stops you know i got back from

1182
00:45:55,109 --> 00:45:53,599
new york uh from from cali and then i

1183
00:45:59,030 --> 00:45:55,119
met a local

1184
00:46:02,390 --> 00:45:59,040
c5 contact group near albany new york

1185
00:46:03,670 --> 00:46:02,400
and once a month we get together sit

1186
00:46:07,390 --> 00:46:03,680
meditate

1187
00:46:11,750 --> 00:46:07,400
and i i have had since

1188
00:46:14,390 --> 00:46:11,760
2011 when i met greer i've had dozens of

1189
00:46:17,750 --> 00:46:14,400
contact experiences with my

1190
00:46:20,470 --> 00:46:17,760
c5 team near albany

1191
00:46:22,150 --> 00:46:20,480
well that's interesting and how

1192
00:46:24,550 --> 00:46:22,160
how do you see the relationship though

1193
00:46:26,710 --> 00:46:24,560
between the ufo side of things and

1194
00:46:28,150 --> 00:46:26,720
aliens and

1195
00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:28,160
all this other stuff that you're

1196
00:46:31,910 --> 00:46:30,480
experiencing like ghosts and demons and

1197
00:46:33,910 --> 00:46:31,920
things like that well

1198
00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:33,920
the the medium that trained me or how

1199
00:46:36,950 --> 00:46:35,280
you know no one me like i said no one

1200
00:46:39,190 --> 00:46:36,960
made me psychic but the guy that helped

1201
00:46:40,150 --> 00:46:39,200
me decipher all this [\h__\h] and help me

1202
00:46:41,270 --> 00:46:40,160
you know you gotta have a guide you

1203
00:46:43,349 --> 00:46:41,280
gotta have somebody help you with this

1204
00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:43,359
stuff if you try to go on google or try

1205
00:46:47,589 --> 00:46:45,040
to research it yourself you you lose

1206
00:46:49,190 --> 00:46:47,599
your mind um so

1207
00:46:51,190 --> 00:46:49,200
the wrong way

1208
00:46:53,510 --> 00:46:51,200
people that have helped me along the way

1209
00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:53,520
the one or the for the information is

1210
00:46:56,470 --> 00:46:54,960
contradictory

1211
00:46:58,230 --> 00:46:56,480
you know like for a while i got

1212
00:46:59,829 --> 00:46:58,240
interested in remote viewing so i said

1213
00:47:02,150 --> 00:46:59,839
there's got to be some books on how to

1214
00:47:04,710 --> 00:47:02,160
develop this so i got

1215
00:47:06,710 --> 00:47:04,720
10 books and 10 books said 10 different

1216
00:47:08,390 --> 00:47:06,720
methods you know

1217
00:47:10,309 --> 00:47:08,400
it's a lot of contradictory information

1218
00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:10,319
it depends on who you ask in other words

1219
00:47:14,069 --> 00:47:12,400
how to develop you know there's there is

1220
00:47:17,349 --> 00:47:14,079
books on how to develop your psychic

1221
00:47:18,870 --> 00:47:17,359
intuition or how to remote view but a

1222
00:47:20,549 --> 00:47:18,880
lot of the information is completely

1223
00:47:22,309 --> 00:47:20,559
contradictory and i always found a

1224
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:22,319
problem with that because how he's

1225
00:47:26,870 --> 00:47:24,960
supposed to know which way to go you

1226
00:47:29,109 --> 00:47:26,880
know

1227
00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:29,119
yes lucky and found a good teacher in

1228
00:47:32,710 --> 00:47:30,720
your case

1229
00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:32,720
yeah and and the guy taught me the

1230
00:47:38,710 --> 00:47:34,960
medium that taught me he said andrew

1231
00:47:41,829 --> 00:47:38,720
stay away from the ufo stuff i said why

1232
00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:41,839
he goes because most of it's [\h__\h] he

1233
00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:42,960
goes and you're going to get a lot of

1234
00:47:46,069 --> 00:47:44,880
nut jobs out there he goes be real

1235
00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:46,079
careful

1236
00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:48,000
who you associate with because most of

1237
00:47:52,470 --> 00:47:49,920
those people are not well and they're

1238
00:47:55,349 --> 00:47:52,480
using ufology and ufos

1239
00:47:56,790 --> 00:47:55,359
as a like a cult or a religion

1240
00:47:58,549 --> 00:47:56,800
and they're not doing the work on

1241
00:48:00,790 --> 00:47:58,559
themselves you know they think that the

1242
00:48:02,710 --> 00:48:00,800
et's are going to bring them happiness

1243
00:48:04,870 --> 00:48:02,720
or this so that he goes you got to do

1244
00:48:07,510 --> 00:48:04,880
the work spiritually on yourself

1245
00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:07,520
then if you want to look into that stuff

1246
00:48:12,470 --> 00:48:10,240
then go there he goes but just be very

1247
00:48:14,069 --> 00:48:12,480
careful and he's right yeah he's right

1248
00:48:16,549 --> 00:48:14,079
there's a lot of nutters

1249
00:48:17,349 --> 00:48:16,559
and con artists and

1250
00:48:19,109 --> 00:48:17,359
coal

1251
00:48:21,589 --> 00:48:19,119
like people there's a lot of cult-like

1252
00:48:23,910 --> 00:48:21,599
activity in the ufo world it's it's it's

1253
00:48:27,030 --> 00:48:23,920
bizarro

1254
00:48:28,309 --> 00:48:27,040
yeah yeah i what what put this together

1255
00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:28,319
for me was

1256
00:48:30,549 --> 00:48:29,520
everything

1257
00:48:33,270 --> 00:48:30,559
um

1258
00:48:37,589 --> 00:48:33,280
i was on the phone my friend who's a phd

1259
00:48:40,630 --> 00:48:37,599
this lady marilyn gowack g-e-w-a-c-k-e

1260
00:48:43,510 --> 00:48:40,640
she's the leader of my northeast ce5

1261
00:48:44,790 --> 00:48:43,520
group in east nassau new york new albany

1262
00:48:46,390 --> 00:48:44,800
um

1263
00:48:49,750 --> 00:48:46,400
she's the leader of the group there you

1264
00:48:51,510 --> 00:48:49,760
know running it for 12 years now

1265
00:48:53,270 --> 00:48:51,520
um i was on the phone with her on new

1266
00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:53,280
year's eve a couple years ago

1267
00:48:57,910 --> 00:48:56,400
and i said i said marilyn i miss my dog

1268
00:48:59,510 --> 00:48:57,920
he's been dead for years five years

1269
00:49:00,829 --> 00:48:59,520
whatever i said i wish i could just see

1270
00:49:03,589 --> 00:49:00,839
him right

1271
00:49:06,069 --> 00:49:03,599
now so i'm on the phone with yup that's

1272
00:49:08,950 --> 00:49:06,079
her and all of a sudden

1273
00:49:10,390 --> 00:49:08,960
in the distance i see something like an

1274
00:49:11,270 --> 00:49:10,400
object i go hold on let me take a

1275
00:49:13,750 --> 00:49:11,280
picture

1276
00:49:14,790 --> 00:49:13,760
i start taking photos

1277
00:49:16,630 --> 00:49:14,800
and

1278
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:16,640
there's a crafts

1279
00:49:20,549 --> 00:49:18,480
and when i took the photos i brought

1280
00:49:23,990 --> 00:49:20,559
them back when i looked at the photos i

1281
00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:24,000
could see and people can see

1282
00:49:27,670 --> 00:49:26,480
like a gray head with black eyes like

1283
00:49:29,670 --> 00:49:27,680
something that would look like what

1284
00:49:32,230 --> 00:49:29,680
you'd say a gray would be

1285
00:49:34,230 --> 00:49:32,240
and it was holding

1286
00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:34,240
my door my dog's dead you know it's not

1287
00:49:38,309 --> 00:49:36,240
my actual dog but it looked like it was

1288
00:49:40,309 --> 00:49:38,319
holding something that resembled my dog

1289
00:49:41,589 --> 00:49:40,319
the thing was looking back at me

1290
00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:41,599
so for me

1291
00:49:48,630 --> 00:49:44,400
it pieced all of this together

1292
00:49:50,470 --> 00:49:48,640
that our loved ones pets humans whatever

1293
00:49:52,630 --> 00:49:50,480
all of them are together

1294
00:49:54,150 --> 00:49:52,640
with these et's they're all coming

1295
00:49:55,109 --> 00:49:54,160
through together

1296
00:49:57,990 --> 00:49:55,119
and

1297
00:49:59,430 --> 00:49:58,000
the the ufos themselves are actually

1298
00:50:03,750 --> 00:49:59,440
windows

1299
00:50:05,750 --> 00:50:03,760
and there

1300
00:50:07,349 --> 00:50:05,760
you know that whatever

1301
00:50:08,309 --> 00:50:07,359
yeah i heard that i haven't heard that

1302
00:50:10,829 --> 00:50:08,319
before

1303
00:50:14,150 --> 00:50:10,839
but it could be and i've often thought

1304
00:50:16,150 --> 00:50:14,160
that someday you know like the like

1305
00:50:17,750 --> 00:50:16,160
physics there's everybody's looking for

1306
00:50:20,470 --> 00:50:17,760
that you know

1307
00:50:22,549 --> 00:50:20,480
one theory to explain it all

1308
00:50:24,630 --> 00:50:22,559
someday maybe somebody will come up with

1309
00:50:26,150 --> 00:50:24,640
the one theory that will explain all

1310
00:50:28,630 --> 00:50:26,160
this paranormal phenomenon because it

1311
00:50:31,510 --> 00:50:28,640
seems to me to be very related sometimes

1312
00:50:34,549 --> 00:50:31,520
a lot of people believe that

1313
00:50:35,990 --> 00:50:34,559
so windows 2 elsewhere that's a good way

1314
00:50:38,710 --> 00:50:36,000
to put it

1315
00:50:40,950 --> 00:50:38,720
yeah and and i'll tell you this too so i

1316
00:50:42,790 --> 00:50:40,960
started speaking about this stuff i i

1317
00:50:44,710 --> 00:50:42,800
got a little more public

1318
00:50:45,990 --> 00:50:44,720
uh you know i looked on social media

1319
00:50:48,549 --> 00:50:46,000
tried to find other people that were

1320
00:50:49,430 --> 00:50:48,559
experiencing this just to get info

1321
00:50:51,589 --> 00:50:49,440
and

1322
00:50:52,470 --> 00:50:51,599
a guy interviewed me this guy michael

1323
00:50:54,950 --> 00:50:52,480
harrell

1324
00:50:56,950 --> 00:50:54,960
interviewed me in like 2017

1325
00:50:59,109 --> 00:50:56,960
and as he's interviewing me

1326
00:51:01,430 --> 00:50:59,119
he's like andrew

1327
00:51:03,349 --> 00:51:01,440
you're turning blue i said what

1328
00:51:04,870 --> 00:51:03,359
he goes something's wrong

1329
00:51:06,790 --> 00:51:04,880
you're turning blue i said what are you

1330
00:51:09,510 --> 00:51:06,800
talking about so i turn the computer

1331
00:51:11,750 --> 00:51:09,520
around i look and i'm like oh [\h__\h]

1332
00:51:13,990 --> 00:51:11,760
my skin was not turning blue but

1333
00:51:16,309 --> 00:51:14,000
something was going on that the color of

1334
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:16,319
me was changing too blue

1335
00:51:19,910 --> 00:51:17,680
so

1336
00:51:20,790 --> 00:51:19,920
that would make for an odd interview for

1337
00:51:22,390 --> 00:51:20,800
me

1338
00:51:23,750 --> 00:51:22,400
if the guest just suddenly started

1339
00:51:25,829 --> 00:51:23,760
turning blue

1340
00:51:27,910 --> 00:51:25,839
yeah so

1341
00:51:30,870 --> 00:51:27,920
hey roll into this man just keep going

1342
00:51:32,069 --> 00:51:30,880
with it and as i was talking about the

1343
00:51:33,670 --> 00:51:32,079
phenomena

1344
00:51:35,589 --> 00:51:33,680
life after death

1345
00:51:36,950 --> 00:51:35,599
i just kept changing color changing

1346
00:51:38,549 --> 00:51:36,960
color

1347
00:51:39,589 --> 00:51:38,559
so i went out after and bought another

1348
00:51:43,270 --> 00:51:39,599
computer

1349
00:51:45,030 --> 00:51:43,280
shot it was a brand new apple anyway

1350
00:51:48,150 --> 00:51:45,040
uh i did another interview with someone

1351
00:51:51,430 --> 00:51:48,160
else same thing happen so

1352
00:51:53,670 --> 00:51:51,440
mary rodwell she saw this interview

1353
00:51:55,990 --> 00:51:53,680
somebody sent it to her

1354
00:51:58,150 --> 00:51:56,000
and she's in australia i'm sure you're

1355
00:52:00,390 --> 00:51:58,160
familiar with her right yeah i've i've

1356
00:52:02,309 --> 00:52:00,400
definitely heard of her yeah and i saw

1357
00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:02,319
there was some documentary like my mom

1358
00:52:07,910 --> 00:52:05,680
talks to aliens and i saw that on uh

1359
00:52:09,349 --> 00:52:07,920
i guess netflix or amazon prime or

1360
00:52:13,190 --> 00:52:09,359
something like that she's well known in

1361
00:52:15,349 --> 00:52:13,200
the ufo community experiencer and uh

1362
00:52:17,430 --> 00:52:15,359
talks to aliens right

1363
00:52:18,790 --> 00:52:17,440
yes so she said to me she goes andrew

1364
00:52:21,270 --> 00:52:18,800
i'd like to do

1365
00:52:23,349 --> 00:52:21,280
uh you know a regression on you i said

1366
00:52:25,589 --> 00:52:23,359
all right well you know i never had one

1367
00:52:27,510 --> 00:52:25,599
before but we'll give it a shot

1368
00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:27,520
so she did the regression this is

1369
00:52:30,829 --> 00:52:28,720
through a computer of course because

1370
00:52:33,349 --> 00:52:30,839
she's in australia i'm in

1371
00:52:35,990 --> 00:52:33,359
america and

1372
00:52:37,670 --> 00:52:36,000
she said andrew during the whole session

1373
00:52:38,950 --> 00:52:37,680
she goes you started changing color

1374
00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:38,960
again

1375
00:52:42,309 --> 00:52:40,800
i said all right well okay what do i do

1376
00:52:44,870 --> 00:52:42,319
with this though great i'm changing

1377
00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:44,880
color what does this mean she goes you

1378
00:52:48,230 --> 00:52:46,880
need to find a geneticist or an

1379
00:52:50,069 --> 00:52:48,240
immunologist

1380
00:52:52,710 --> 00:52:50,079
i said why she goes i think that

1381
00:52:54,549 --> 00:52:52,720
something is going on with your dna

1382
00:52:57,829 --> 00:52:54,559
so

1383
00:53:00,630 --> 00:52:57,839
i tracked down dr gary nolan

1384
00:53:01,910 --> 00:53:00,640
from stanford research institute in

1385
00:53:03,910 --> 00:53:01,920
california

1386
00:53:06,710 --> 00:53:03,920
that's interesting he's been coming up

1387
00:53:10,309 --> 00:53:06,720
with me a lot a lot lately

1388
00:53:11,190 --> 00:53:10,319
in fact i just had another guest who uh

1389
00:53:13,510 --> 00:53:11,200
who

1390
00:53:16,870 --> 00:53:13,520
was here and then he went and talked to

1391
00:53:17,670 --> 00:53:16,880
dr gary nolan too

1392
00:53:19,910 --> 00:53:17,680
and

1393
00:53:21,990 --> 00:53:19,920
i i sent him you know

1394
00:53:24,309 --> 00:53:22,000
videos that i had pictures i've had told

1395
00:53:25,349 --> 00:53:24,319
him my experiences

1396
00:53:26,870 --> 00:53:25,359
you know i'm like what do you think's

1397
00:53:28,390 --> 00:53:26,880
going on doc i have no idea you know

1398
00:53:29,510 --> 00:53:28,400
this is an odd one

1399
00:53:31,990 --> 00:53:29,520
and uh

1400
00:53:33,750 --> 00:53:32,000
he said what i i think is going on is he

1401
00:53:35,510 --> 00:53:33,760
goes in our brain

1402
00:53:37,430 --> 00:53:35,520
there's a brain within the brain we call

1403
00:53:39,750 --> 00:53:37,440
it the antenna

1404
00:53:41,750 --> 00:53:39,760
he goes and he goes you're somehow

1405
00:53:44,470 --> 00:53:41,760
activating your antenna

1406
00:53:46,549 --> 00:53:44,480
he goes the antenna is two ways it could

1407
00:53:49,190 --> 00:53:46,559
send information

1408
00:53:51,750 --> 00:53:49,200
and it can receive information he goes

1409
00:53:53,990 --> 00:53:51,760
so i think that you're sending out a

1410
00:53:56,470 --> 00:53:54,000
signal which is why these

1411
00:53:58,470 --> 00:53:56,480
objects are appearing and that your

1412
00:54:00,710 --> 00:53:58,480
antenna literally

1413
00:54:03,190 --> 00:54:00,720
is causing some sort of electrical

1414
00:54:05,030 --> 00:54:03,200
interference i know that a lot of times

1415
00:54:06,390 --> 00:54:05,040
during ufo events

1416
00:54:08,470 --> 00:54:06,400
people will talk about you know the

1417
00:54:10,870 --> 00:54:08,480
power going out or the batteries

1418
00:54:13,430 --> 00:54:10,880
draining or all sorts of weird stuff

1419
00:54:16,069 --> 00:54:13,440
happening uh electronically

1420
00:54:18,710 --> 00:54:16,079
uh he felt that that was because of us

1421
00:54:21,190 --> 00:54:18,720
the person actually uh we're emitting a

1422
00:54:22,950 --> 00:54:21,200
frequency and we change that frequency

1423
00:54:25,829 --> 00:54:22,960
and that's affecting the electronics

1424
00:54:27,510 --> 00:54:25,839
around us uh he said to me

1425
00:54:29,030 --> 00:54:27,520
i said how do i handle this though like

1426
00:54:30,630 --> 00:54:29,040
well you know what do i do man this is

1427
00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:30,640
out there and he goes

1428
00:54:33,510 --> 00:54:31,680
hey man

1429
00:54:35,829 --> 00:54:33,520
you're experiencing something incredible

1430
00:54:37,910 --> 00:54:35,839
it's a gift it's unique if people have a

1431
00:54:40,230 --> 00:54:37,920
problem with it too [\h__\h] bad because

1432
00:54:41,910 --> 00:54:40,240
just be yourself and go on which you're

1433
00:54:43,510 --> 00:54:41,920
gonna love this

1434
00:54:45,670 --> 00:54:43,520
so

1435
00:54:48,069 --> 00:54:45,680
of course he didn't have

1436
00:54:51,670 --> 00:54:48,079
the guts to track me down but richard

1437
00:54:53,829 --> 00:54:51,680
dolan ended up doing a video about me

1438
00:54:55,270 --> 00:54:53,839
so oh that's interesting he doesn't

1439
00:54:57,430 --> 00:54:55,280
contact me

1440
00:54:59,270 --> 00:54:57,440
uh i'll send you

1441
00:55:01,430 --> 00:54:59,280
a little something here you'll love this

1442
00:55:03,190 --> 00:55:01,440
yeah and people are people are asking to

1443
00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:03,200
see the uh

1444
00:55:07,750 --> 00:55:06,400
if you have the picture uh

1445
00:55:10,150 --> 00:55:07,760
i think you mentioned that you had a

1446
00:55:11,349 --> 00:55:10,160
photo of this alien dog or something

1447
00:55:13,829 --> 00:55:11,359
like that

1448
00:55:18,470 --> 00:55:16,230
um yeah and we do have we do have

1449
00:55:21,109 --> 00:55:18,480
andrew's youtube page which has a great

1450
00:55:23,349 --> 00:55:21,119
number of ufo videos and i've previewed

1451
00:55:24,789 --> 00:55:23,359
some of them it looks pretty interesting

1452
00:55:25,990 --> 00:55:24,799
stuff to me

1453
00:55:27,510 --> 00:55:26,000
um

1454
00:55:29,589 --> 00:55:27,520
but at the same time some of it is

1455
00:55:31,109 --> 00:55:29,599
lights in the sky so it's hard to you

1456
00:55:32,710 --> 00:55:31,119
know make a determination of what it

1457
00:55:34,309 --> 00:55:32,720
actually is

1458
00:55:36,470 --> 00:55:34,319
so i just send you something in your

1459
00:55:38,390 --> 00:55:36,480
messenger if you want to post that

1460
00:55:39,430 --> 00:55:38,400
uh sure

1461
00:55:41,990 --> 00:55:39,440
so

1462
00:55:43,510 --> 00:55:42,000
basically you know

1463
00:55:45,190 --> 00:55:43,520
typical richard dolan or any other

1464
00:55:46,470 --> 00:55:45,200
ufologist

1465
00:55:47,750 --> 00:55:46,480
he doesn't reach out to me he doesn't

1466
00:55:50,470 --> 00:55:47,760
talk to me doesn't ask for a comment

1467
00:55:52,549 --> 00:55:50,480
nothing uh

1468
00:55:54,789 --> 00:55:52,559
just make some video

1469
00:55:56,870 --> 00:55:54,799
basically if you read there what he

1470
00:55:58,950 --> 00:55:56,880
wrote

1471
00:56:00,829 --> 00:55:58,960
tracy shot me in our yard this morning

1472
00:56:04,630 --> 00:56:00,839
after we started discussing the case of

1473
00:56:06,549 --> 00:56:04,640
andrew radzowitz raz our friends uh

1474
00:56:07,829 --> 00:56:06,559
desta who is the assistant to grant

1475
00:56:09,670 --> 00:56:07,839
cameron recently had a skype

1476
00:56:11,030 --> 00:56:09,680
conversation with this person who was

1477
00:56:13,510 --> 00:56:11,040
one of a current batch of people

1478
00:56:17,109 --> 00:56:13,520
claiming to be an extraterrestrial or to

1479
00:56:19,750 --> 00:56:17,119
be communicating with uh

1480
00:56:22,230 --> 00:56:19,760
extraterrestrials right

1481
00:56:24,390 --> 00:56:22,240
did he misquote you there or

1482
00:56:27,430 --> 00:56:24,400
uh well i've never said to anyone that

1483
00:56:29,270 --> 00:56:27,440
i'm extraterrestrial or anything to that

1484
00:56:31,430 --> 00:56:29,280
extent what i what i've always said was

1485
00:56:32,630 --> 00:56:31,440
and i still say is

1486
00:56:35,270 --> 00:56:32,640
if you

1487
00:56:36,630 --> 00:56:35,280
want to see this phenomena

1488
00:56:38,630 --> 00:56:36,640
come find me

1489
00:56:41,270 --> 00:56:38,640
we'll sit outside and i'll just show you

1490
00:56:43,430 --> 00:56:41,280
that's the easiest way well hey andrew

1491
00:56:45,750 --> 00:56:43,440
you know uh you're not real far away

1492
00:56:47,910 --> 00:56:45,760
from my cabin in the poconos so uh you

1493
00:56:49,990 --> 00:56:47,920
gotta open invitation

1494
00:56:53,109 --> 00:56:50,000
and i gotta go oh yeah well um place for

1495
00:56:54,789 --> 00:56:53,119
guests guests to stay any weekend they

1496
00:56:56,789 --> 00:56:54,799
want to so you have your own little

1497
00:56:59,589 --> 00:56:56,799
kitchen and bathroom and privacy there's

1498
00:57:01,510 --> 00:56:59,599
like a camping trailer next to the cabin

1499
00:57:03,270 --> 00:57:01,520
and it's a huge high elevation we see

1500
00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:03,280
stuff there all the time but most of it

1501
00:57:06,950 --> 00:57:05,599
i would say is uh

1502
00:57:08,710 --> 00:57:06,960
is

1503
00:57:10,309 --> 00:57:08,720
satellites because we're at such a high

1504
00:57:11,589 --> 00:57:10,319
elevation in the mountains you could see

1505
00:57:13,349 --> 00:57:11,599
things with the naked eye you never

1506
00:57:15,510 --> 00:57:13,359
would normally see like the

1507
00:57:17,270 --> 00:57:15,520
international space station and but you

1508
00:57:18,950 --> 00:57:17,280
got to open invitation with me anytime

1509
00:57:20,309 --> 00:57:18,960
you want to as long as you know you're

1510
00:57:22,069 --> 00:57:20,319
going to get grilled and everything

1511
00:57:23,910 --> 00:57:22,079
filmed

1512
00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:23,920
of course

1513
00:57:28,950 --> 00:57:26,400
a cheap vacation or free vacation

1514
00:57:32,069 --> 00:57:28,960
and not surprisingly richard dolan gets

1515
00:57:34,549 --> 00:57:32,079
the facts wrong to hype up a story

1516
00:57:36,390 --> 00:57:34,559
to sell and well the best part the best

1517
00:57:38,789 --> 00:57:36,400
part about this is

1518
00:57:41,190 --> 00:57:38,799
he posted that with a video

1519
00:57:43,349 --> 00:57:41,200
put it up for however long

1520
00:57:45,510 --> 00:57:43,359
uh and then he took it down like a

1521
00:57:47,030 --> 00:57:45,520
typical coward so

1522
00:57:49,190 --> 00:57:47,040
you know he puts that information out

1523
00:57:50,870 --> 00:57:49,200
there uh whatever he said and whatever

1524
00:57:52,789 --> 00:57:50,880
he did and his tribe followed him and

1525
00:57:55,829 --> 00:57:52,799
they loved it and everything and and

1526
00:57:58,069 --> 00:57:55,839
like i said i i reached out to him

1527
00:58:00,230 --> 00:57:58,079
i said hey why don't oh and he's calling

1528
00:58:02,309 --> 00:58:00,240
you a fa he's he's trashing you too he's

1529
00:58:05,829 --> 00:58:02,319
calling you a faker right this is from

1530
00:58:06,829 --> 00:58:05,839
his members only fakers in our field so

1531
00:58:11,030 --> 00:58:06,839
yep

1532
00:58:13,750 --> 00:58:11,040
you know we caught him interviewing a

1533
00:58:15,349 --> 00:58:13,760
dead man to sell a story about him he

1534
00:58:17,589 --> 00:58:15,359
interviewed a guy

1535
00:58:19,430 --> 00:58:17,599
four years after he died

1536
00:58:21,270 --> 00:58:19,440
and everybody keeps asking me how he did

1537
00:58:23,270 --> 00:58:21,280
that and i keep saying it's not up to me

1538
00:58:25,510 --> 00:58:23,280
to explain how he did it here's the

1539
00:58:27,349 --> 00:58:25,520
information that the guy died four years

1540
00:58:29,030 --> 00:58:27,359
before he interviewed him

1541
00:58:30,549 --> 00:58:29,040
he's got to tell everybody how he

1542
00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:30,559
interviewed a dead man i don't know how

1543
00:58:34,870 --> 00:58:32,640
he did it was that an actor pretending

1544
00:58:37,270 --> 00:58:34,880
to be the dead man i don't know we don't

1545
00:58:38,789 --> 00:58:37,280
we just don't know so interesting that

1546
00:58:42,470 --> 00:58:38,799
he calls you a faker as he's

1547
00:58:44,870 --> 00:58:42,480
interviewing dead people to sell stories

1548
00:58:46,630 --> 00:58:44,880
yeah and i reached out to him and

1549
00:58:48,789 --> 00:58:46,640
you know i said hey if you'd like to

1550
00:58:49,910 --> 00:58:48,799
talk like adults let's have

1551
00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:49,920
you know let's do a little something

1552
00:58:53,270 --> 00:58:51,520
like an interview or whatever a debate

1553
00:58:54,870 --> 00:58:53,280
whatever you want and

1554
00:58:56,710 --> 00:58:54,880
he's not far from you i think i think

1555
00:58:59,109 --> 00:58:56,720
he's in albany or something like that

1556
00:59:01,270 --> 00:58:59,119
for rochester i said any night you want

1557
00:59:02,549 --> 00:59:01,280
to come by my contact team

1558
00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:02,559
you know we meet once a month you want

1559
00:59:07,990 --> 00:59:05,200
to come by and see how fake it is come

1560
00:59:09,829 --> 00:59:08,000
by and we'll show you no problem and you

1561
00:59:10,870 --> 00:59:09,839
know crickets i heard nothing you know

1562
00:59:15,030 --> 00:59:10,880
typical

1563
00:59:16,870 --> 00:59:15,040
researchers out there like that but

1564
00:59:19,270 --> 00:59:16,880
you know i noticed that i was getting

1565
00:59:21,190 --> 00:59:19,280
the attention of the right people

1566
00:59:23,990 --> 00:59:21,200
and i started to steer away from the

1567
00:59:25,990 --> 00:59:24,000
ufology people you know at first you

1568
00:59:29,430 --> 00:59:26,000
think that you need acceptance

1569
00:59:31,030 --> 00:59:29,440
um from people in ufology uh you know so

1570
00:59:33,270 --> 00:59:31,040
that all right wow if they accept me

1571
00:59:35,430 --> 00:59:33,280
this this must be really going on

1572
00:59:37,270 --> 00:59:35,440
whereas if now i know my story i know

1573
00:59:38,870 --> 00:59:37,280
what i've experienced doesn't matter who

1574
00:59:41,109 --> 00:59:38,880
likes it who doesn't

1575
00:59:42,870 --> 00:59:41,119
i've seen this enough with enough people

1576
00:59:43,910 --> 00:59:42,880
all over the world

1577
00:59:46,390 --> 00:59:43,920
um

1578
00:59:48,150 --> 00:59:46,400
i'm currently at the moment in melbourne

1579
00:59:50,630 --> 00:59:48,160
australia

1580
00:59:52,710 --> 00:59:50,640
so oh you are i didn't know that

1581
00:59:54,309 --> 00:59:52,720
yeah i've done this globally so what

1582
00:59:55,990 --> 00:59:54,319
happened was

1583
00:59:58,150 --> 00:59:56,000
i came to australia to speak at a

1584
01:00:00,950 --> 00:59:58,160
conference

1585
01:00:03,750 --> 01:00:00,960
and i met a girl traveling

1586
01:00:06,549 --> 01:00:03,760
we started dating long distance

1587
01:00:09,190 --> 01:00:06,559
we got married we had a child

1588
01:00:10,390 --> 01:00:09,200
i came to australia cove it happened and

1589
01:00:12,789 --> 01:00:10,400
i never left

1590
01:00:15,270 --> 01:00:12,799
you're stuck right what about your job

1591
01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:15,280
at being a firefighter is that is that

1592
01:00:17,990 --> 01:00:17,040
waiting for you or

1593
01:00:19,589 --> 01:00:18,000
oh

1594
01:00:22,230 --> 01:00:19,599
he touched his camera and we lost him

1595
01:00:26,230 --> 01:00:23,589
oh no

1596
01:00:28,390 --> 01:00:26,240
visa shots fired yeah there's another

1597
01:00:30,150 --> 01:00:28,400
there's another uh reason

1598
01:00:35,190 --> 01:00:30,160
to uh

1599
01:00:40,150 --> 01:00:37,430
so can you hear me yeah i can hear you

1600
01:00:42,470 --> 01:00:40,160
fine so you're stuck in australia i was

1601
01:00:44,549 --> 01:00:42,480
wondering though what about your job as

1602
01:00:46,470 --> 01:00:44,559
a firefighter is that waiting for you or

1603
01:00:56,710 --> 01:00:46,480
are you on like a sabbatical or are you

1604
01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:02,309
can you hear me

1605
01:01:10,069 --> 01:01:05,430
yeah i'm not sure if you can hear me now

1606
01:01:10,079 --> 01:01:14,630
yeah we'll see if he can't come back

1607
01:01:25,190 --> 01:01:17,109
yes apparently now he is in australia uh

1608
01:01:29,190 --> 01:01:27,190
and no lord ludacris plan i would pretty

1609
01:01:30,870 --> 01:01:29,200
much never probably become a stephen

1610
01:01:33,349 --> 01:01:30,880
greer fan just based on everything i

1611
01:01:35,349 --> 01:01:33,359
know about him but you know i i have

1612
01:01:38,789 --> 01:01:35,359
respect for people that believe that

1613
01:01:40,470 --> 01:01:38,799
stuff works i suppose right i mean

1614
01:01:42,710 --> 01:01:40,480
who knows uh

1615
01:01:44,789 --> 01:01:42,720
who knows what is possible in the depths

1616
01:01:46,789 --> 01:01:44,799
of the human mind

1617
01:01:48,230 --> 01:01:46,799
and andrew how's that how about now can

1618
01:01:50,470 --> 01:01:48,240
you hear me now what are you beautiful

1619
01:01:53,910 --> 01:01:50,480
thank you all right then once you get it

1620
01:01:58,950 --> 01:01:56,470
i'm not touching it yeah [\h__\h] um

1621
01:02:01,029 --> 01:01:58,960
yeah yeah so yeah um

1622
01:02:02,390 --> 01:02:01,039
you know going from people like that and

1623
01:02:03,829 --> 01:02:02,400
and dealing with all that nonsense and

1624
01:02:05,910 --> 01:02:03,839
ufology

1625
01:02:07,510 --> 01:02:05,920
um you know there's little cults and

1626
01:02:09,029 --> 01:02:07,520
groups in there i've understood that so

1627
01:02:10,789 --> 01:02:09,039
i just kept doing my thing kept

1628
01:02:13,190 --> 01:02:10,799
documenting everything kept recording

1629
01:02:15,109 --> 01:02:13,200
kept filming that's it just keep telling

1630
01:02:17,270 --> 01:02:15,119
people people keep asking about the

1631
01:02:19,109 --> 01:02:17,280
picture of the alien and the dog if you

1632
01:02:21,670 --> 01:02:19,119
have that maybe you can send it to me on

1633
01:02:23,750 --> 01:02:21,680
messenger but try try not to touch

1634
01:02:25,829 --> 01:02:23,760
anything

1635
01:02:27,589 --> 01:02:25,839
and then we do have

1636
01:02:31,109 --> 01:02:27,599
interestingly i don't know if they would

1637
01:02:33,990 --> 01:02:31,119
mind but yeah but uh the andrew has had

1638
01:02:35,990 --> 01:02:34,000
a bunch of his ce5 videos featured in a

1639
01:02:38,069 --> 01:02:36,000
music video so maybe if we take a break

1640
01:02:40,789 --> 01:02:38,079
tonight we can play that

1641
01:02:43,349 --> 01:02:40,799
it doesn't appear that they would mind

1642
01:02:45,270 --> 01:02:43,359
so uh and you know i'll put their link

1643
01:02:47,430 --> 01:02:45,280
to that group in the in the description

1644
01:02:49,430 --> 01:02:47,440
of the video so andre's going to try to

1645
01:02:51,349 --> 01:02:49,440
locate that and in the meantime we do

1646
01:02:52,870 --> 01:02:51,359
have andrew's

1647
01:02:55,990 --> 01:02:52,880
uh youtube

1648
01:02:57,510 --> 01:02:56,000
channel which is just his name uh and

1649
01:02:59,430 --> 01:02:57,520
we'll put a link to that i'm going to

1650
01:03:01,349 --> 01:02:59,440
put a link to that in the live chat

1651
01:03:03,430 --> 01:03:01,359
right now

1652
01:03:05,029 --> 01:03:03,440
so that anybody can follow along or you

1653
01:03:06,630 --> 01:03:05,039
can visit his channel go over and

1654
01:03:08,549 --> 01:03:06,640
subscribe if you're interested in him

1655
01:03:10,470 --> 01:03:08,559
and his interesting experiences i'm

1656
01:03:12,870 --> 01:03:10,480
going to put it right in the live chat

1657
01:03:15,270 --> 01:03:12,880
so anybody can uh

1658
01:03:23,109 --> 01:03:15,280
anybody can follow him or

1659
01:03:27,270 --> 01:03:25,029
one second

1660
01:03:29,109 --> 01:03:27,280
so andrew i'm gonna play uh

1661
01:03:32,950 --> 01:03:29,119
i'm gonna share something something from

1662
01:03:34,390 --> 01:03:32,960
your youtube video in the meantime here

1663
01:03:39,349 --> 01:03:34,400
oh

1664
01:03:39,359 --> 01:03:44,870
there we go now i got it back

1665
01:03:51,349 --> 01:03:47,190
yeah so here we have uh

1666
01:03:51,359 --> 01:03:56,829
this one from december

1667
01:04:04,069 --> 01:03:59,829
2020. yeah i sent the the dog pictures

1668
01:04:05,190 --> 01:04:04,079
here i took that like on an iphone 8

1669
01:04:06,950 --> 01:04:05,200
wow

1670
01:04:09,990 --> 01:04:06,960
this one's interesting

1671
01:04:13,190 --> 01:04:10,000
so yeah

1672
01:04:15,670 --> 01:04:13,200
so of course when i take pictures of

1673
01:04:17,270 --> 01:04:15,680
ufos or ets or whatever they are the

1674
01:04:19,349 --> 01:04:17,280
light beings

1675
01:04:21,510 --> 01:04:19,359
a lot of the time they're vibrating like

1676
01:04:23,349 --> 01:04:21,520
they're pulsating energy so when the

1677
01:04:25,109 --> 01:04:23,359
photo was taken

1678
01:04:26,549 --> 01:04:25,119
it looks shaky

1679
01:04:28,230 --> 01:04:26,559
because they're not

1680
01:04:29,990 --> 01:04:28,240
they're not taking the form of like a

1681
01:04:32,069 --> 01:04:30,000
human i at least haven't seen anything

1682
01:04:33,829 --> 01:04:32,079
like that yeah this one at first i

1683
01:04:36,069 --> 01:04:33,839
thought well it looks like that could be

1684
01:04:37,270 --> 01:04:36,079
the moon but it's moving to it's moving

1685
01:04:39,270 --> 01:04:37,280
too much

1686
01:04:42,549 --> 01:04:39,280
and the interesting scene around there

1687
01:04:44,870 --> 01:04:42,559
you know it looks like a purple sky

1688
01:04:46,630 --> 01:04:44,880
and this is at night so why is the sky

1689
01:04:48,630 --> 01:04:46,640
purple except being illuminated by

1690
01:04:50,309 --> 01:04:48,640
whatever this object is why are the

1691
01:04:58,390 --> 01:04:50,319
clouds so purple

1692
01:05:04,309 --> 01:05:01,990
and here we have some other uh footage

1693
01:05:06,630 --> 01:05:04,319
yes somebody edited this one for me i

1694
01:05:08,230 --> 01:05:06,640
sent them like i don't know an hour of

1695
01:05:10,950 --> 01:05:08,240
footage they just put all sorts of weird

1696
01:05:12,549 --> 01:05:10,960
stuff together that they saw

1697
01:05:14,950 --> 01:05:12,559
yeah there appears to be some kind of an

1698
01:05:21,190 --> 01:05:14,960
object right in there yes it's crazy

1699
01:05:24,870 --> 01:05:23,349
wow and have you considered getting

1700
01:05:26,789 --> 01:05:24,880
getting better cameras with like

1701
01:05:28,630 --> 01:05:26,799
telephoto lenses and stuff so you can

1702
01:05:30,630 --> 01:05:28,640
get closer images because that would be

1703
01:05:32,549 --> 01:05:30,640
my first thought like let's get some

1704
01:05:33,670 --> 01:05:32,559
better cameras so that we can see more

1705
01:05:35,430 --> 01:05:33,680
detail

1706
01:05:36,870 --> 01:05:35,440
of course but this is interesting

1707
01:05:38,470 --> 01:05:36,880
because it appears to be flying in the

1708
01:05:43,029 --> 01:05:38,480
sky and it doesn't appear to be an

1709
01:05:46,710 --> 01:05:45,190
and it appears to be changing shape as

1710
01:05:49,510 --> 01:05:46,720
it's flying

1711
01:05:54,710 --> 01:05:49,520
which is bizarre

1712
01:05:58,230 --> 01:05:56,309
yeah so you've got some interesting

1713
01:05:59,589 --> 01:05:58,240
footage for sure i remember previewing

1714
01:06:01,910 --> 01:05:59,599
some of this

1715
01:06:03,670 --> 01:06:01,920
and being a little perplexed you know

1716
01:06:05,750 --> 01:06:03,680
sometimes people send me ufo footage and

1717
01:06:07,430 --> 01:06:05,760
it's pretty easy to go well that's a

1718
01:06:08,789 --> 01:06:07,440
drone that's a balloon that's this

1719
01:06:10,549 --> 01:06:08,799
that's that

1720
01:06:13,349 --> 01:06:10,559
this thing's bizarre because it seems to

1721
01:06:14,230 --> 01:06:13,359
be changing shapes and zipping around

1722
01:06:16,390 --> 01:06:14,240
yes

1723
01:06:20,230 --> 01:06:16,400
and then we've got all these other orbs

1724
01:06:21,349 --> 01:06:20,240
and things in in the sky

1725
01:06:35,430 --> 01:06:21,359
like a

1726
01:06:39,990 --> 01:06:37,990
well definitely interesting footage

1727
01:06:42,069 --> 01:06:40,000
let's see if we can uh

1728
01:06:44,069 --> 01:06:42,079
find that picture that everybody's so

1729
01:06:49,430 --> 01:06:44,079
intent on seeing i had like 10 people in

1730
01:06:51,910 --> 01:06:50,390
okay

1731
01:06:54,390 --> 01:06:51,920
let's see if we can't

1732
01:06:55,510 --> 01:06:54,400
we can't get that

1733
01:06:57,190 --> 01:06:55,520
so that's

1734
01:06:58,710 --> 01:06:57,200
when he was alive

1735
01:07:00,950 --> 01:06:58,720
okay

1736
01:07:05,589 --> 01:07:00,960
and is there another picture yep there's

1737
01:07:09,430 --> 01:07:07,029
and then there's a couple close-ups that

1738
01:07:12,390 --> 01:07:09,440
i have but that that was in the distance

1739
01:07:14,950 --> 01:07:12,400
i saw something

1740
01:07:18,950 --> 01:07:14,960
and as i close up on it

1741
01:07:20,789 --> 01:07:18,960
as i got closer to the photo to me

1742
01:07:22,390 --> 01:07:20,799
i was seeing a

1743
01:07:25,190 --> 01:07:22,400
gray head

1744
01:07:26,470 --> 01:07:25,200
with black eyes that was holding him

1745
01:07:28,870 --> 01:07:26,480
so right there i don't know if you can

1746
01:07:31,190 --> 01:07:28,880
see in the center of the screen yeah

1747
01:07:33,190 --> 01:07:31,200
well it's pretty blurry could be it i

1748
01:07:35,029 --> 01:07:33,200
know it's tough to see of course because

1749
01:07:37,109 --> 01:07:35,039
it's vibrating energy

1750
01:07:39,270 --> 01:07:37,119
uh i darkened it there just to give

1751
01:07:41,349 --> 01:07:39,280
people a little bit of an idea

1752
01:07:44,069 --> 01:07:41,359
um

1753
01:07:47,829 --> 01:07:44,079
it was at that exact moment that i was

1754
01:07:49,670 --> 01:07:47,839
saying his name that this exact

1755
01:07:52,549 --> 01:07:49,680
situation happened and boom this thing

1756
01:07:55,349 --> 01:07:52,559
appeared so to me it was like telepathy

1757
01:07:57,029 --> 01:07:55,359
it's very very very very

1758
01:07:58,870 --> 01:07:57,039
tough to capture

1759
01:08:00,630 --> 01:07:58,880
these things on camera

1760
01:08:02,150 --> 01:08:00,640
very tough and this was taken with an

1761
01:08:04,230 --> 01:08:02,160
iphone obviously if i had a better

1762
01:08:07,029 --> 01:08:04,240
camera who knows but it was just quick

1763
01:08:10,870 --> 01:08:09,109
but i had this one and other pictures

1764
01:08:12,549 --> 01:08:10,880
i've had analyzed i had him sent to

1765
01:08:15,190 --> 01:08:12,559
stanford university

1766
01:08:16,630 --> 01:08:15,200
because when i met dr gary nolan he said

1767
01:08:20,229 --> 01:08:16,640
to me he said i'd like to study you for

1768
01:08:23,510 --> 01:08:21,269
eight years

1769
01:08:26,149 --> 01:08:23,520
you know he's a he's a very interesting

1770
01:08:28,789 --> 01:08:26,159
guy and it's very interesting to me he's

1771
01:08:29,829 --> 01:08:28,799
poaching guests off of me this dr gary

1772
01:08:32,309 --> 01:08:29,839
nolan

1773
01:08:34,550 --> 01:08:32,319
i swear he watches my show and then he

1774
01:08:36,709 --> 01:08:34,560
contacts interesting guests that i have

1775
01:08:38,550 --> 01:08:36,719
and talks to them about whatever's going

1776
01:08:41,030 --> 01:08:38,560
on with them their experience at least

1777
01:08:43,189 --> 01:08:41,040
two of my previous guests

1778
01:08:45,189 --> 01:08:43,199
he's contacted and wanted to study

1779
01:08:47,030 --> 01:08:45,199
whatever their phenomenon was

1780
01:08:48,630 --> 01:08:47,040
so he's definitely got an interest there

1781
01:08:49,430 --> 01:08:48,640
and and most people would know him from

1782
01:08:51,990 --> 01:08:49,440
this

1783
01:08:54,070 --> 01:08:52,000
ce5 or not ce5 but the stephen greer

1784
01:08:56,309 --> 01:08:54,080
movie with the with the fake

1785
01:08:58,309 --> 01:08:56,319
dead baby that turned out to be just a

1786
01:09:00,070 --> 01:08:58,319
you know fetus or whatever

1787
01:09:03,910 --> 01:09:00,080
yeah people thought was an alien and

1788
01:09:06,550 --> 01:09:03,920
he's also involved with ctsa with the

1789
01:09:08,789 --> 01:09:06,560
analyzing the material and with jacques

1790
01:09:12,229 --> 01:09:08,799
jacques valet analyzing what people

1791
01:09:14,229 --> 01:09:12,239
claim to be material from ufos

1792
01:09:16,309 --> 01:09:14,239
so that he's definitely an interesting

1793
01:09:18,630 --> 01:09:16,319
guy

1794
01:09:22,229 --> 01:09:18,640
yeah his advice was don't go near the

1795
01:09:24,470 --> 01:09:22,239
craft which i have not i i don't claim

1796
01:09:25,910 --> 01:09:24,480
to and i never i've never ever said i've

1797
01:09:29,430 --> 01:09:25,920
been on a craft

1798
01:09:31,349 --> 01:09:29,440
nothing like that as i've anything has

1799
01:09:33,910 --> 01:09:31,359
gone closer to

1800
01:09:35,990 --> 01:09:33,920
the these objects they've moved further

1801
01:09:37,910 --> 01:09:36,000
away this is interesting

1802
01:09:39,590 --> 01:09:37,920
so i've heard stories of people touching

1803
01:09:43,430 --> 01:09:39,600
these craft

1804
01:09:46,149 --> 01:09:43,440
um and having health problems after so i

1805
01:09:47,590 --> 01:09:46,159
have as well yeah i have as well

1806
01:09:49,669 --> 01:09:47,600
and uh

1807
01:09:51,269 --> 01:09:49,679
you know uh there could be a multitude

1808
01:09:53,430 --> 01:09:51,279
of reasons for that like if there's

1809
01:09:55,030 --> 01:09:53,440
really some kind of alien spacecraft we

1810
01:09:57,830 --> 01:09:55,040
have no idea what's power it could be

1811
01:09:59,590 --> 01:09:57,840
nuclear could be some kind of strange

1812
01:10:00,870 --> 01:09:59,600
you know could be dark matter or dark

1813
01:10:02,390 --> 01:10:00,880
energy or something we don't even

1814
01:10:04,550 --> 01:10:02,400
understand that could cause health

1815
01:10:06,470 --> 01:10:04,560
problems and health defects in people

1816
01:10:08,229 --> 01:10:06,480
and there's the famous cash landrum

1817
01:10:09,830 --> 01:10:08,239
incident where they got radiation burns

1818
01:10:11,830 --> 01:10:09,840
from being too close to one of those

1819
01:10:16,070 --> 01:10:11,840
things so

1820
01:10:18,149 --> 01:10:16,080
yeah exactly you got to be real careful

1821
01:10:19,510 --> 01:10:18,159
and this right here i'm just sending you

1822
01:10:22,310 --> 01:10:19,520
this to steven

1823
01:10:23,990 --> 01:10:22,320
um if you look in the messages this this

1824
01:10:26,550 --> 01:10:24,000
was

1825
01:10:27,510 --> 01:10:26,560
a picture taken from the video

1826
01:10:32,790 --> 01:10:27,520
uh

1827
01:10:36,470 --> 01:10:34,950
are you sure this one i'm gonna say are

1828
01:10:39,030 --> 01:10:36,480
you sure that it's not a problem with

1829
01:10:40,790 --> 01:10:39,040
the webcam or something weird going on

1830
01:10:43,430 --> 01:10:40,800
because this one looks

1831
01:10:45,270 --> 01:10:43,440
this one looks really funky yeah

1832
01:10:47,189 --> 01:10:45,280
so you turned blue in the middle of an

1833
01:10:49,110 --> 01:10:47,199
interview do you have the video can you

1834
01:10:50,870 --> 01:10:49,120
send me links later oh yeah yeah there's

1835
01:10:52,550 --> 01:10:50,880
a whole oh i got to see it

1836
01:10:54,390 --> 01:10:52,560
i'll send you the link it's on my page i

1837
01:10:57,350 --> 01:10:54,400
have it under videos on my youtube page

1838
01:10:59,430 --> 01:10:57,360
but i'll send it right to you yeah

1839
01:11:00,950 --> 01:10:59,440
yeah let me see if i can't find that so

1840
01:11:03,270 --> 01:11:00,960
so this is one of the reasons i was

1841
01:11:05,910 --> 01:11:03,280
interested in talking to andrew because

1842
01:11:07,830 --> 01:11:05,920
a lot of people they have uh their

1843
01:11:09,430 --> 01:11:07,840
experience and that's all they have is a

1844
01:11:10,550 --> 01:11:09,440
story but

1845
01:11:12,070 --> 01:11:10,560
um

1846
01:11:14,550 --> 01:11:12,080
you know andrew seems to have a little

1847
01:11:17,590 --> 01:11:14,560
bit more than than most people do he's

1848
01:11:19,910 --> 01:11:17,600
got all these ce5 ufo videos and some

1849
01:11:22,550 --> 01:11:19,920
other strange experiences sort of

1850
01:11:24,310 --> 01:11:22,560
documented

1851
01:11:28,950 --> 01:11:24,320
maybe

1852
01:11:30,470 --> 01:11:28,960
wanted a new member or something i don't

1853
01:11:32,470 --> 01:11:30,480
know yeah maybe

1854
01:11:35,830 --> 01:11:32,480
what what that's about yeah let me see

1855
01:11:38,870 --> 01:11:37,270
oh yeah

1856
01:11:40,149 --> 01:11:38,880
do you know is there a timestamp because

1857
01:11:43,030 --> 01:11:40,159
this is like an hour and a half do you

1858
01:11:44,390 --> 01:11:43,040
know when you turn blue

1859
01:11:46,709 --> 01:11:44,400
is right away

1860
01:11:48,950 --> 01:11:46,719
okay well you know what i'll just i'm

1861
01:11:50,790 --> 01:11:48,960
gonna let it play and then we'll uh

1862
01:11:52,310 --> 01:11:50,800
we'll just continue the conversation

1863
01:11:54,390 --> 01:11:52,320
while we do that

1864
01:11:58,550 --> 01:11:54,400
yeah on the rise he turned blue in the

1865
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:02,070
oh wait a minute

1866
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:05,110
there we go

1867
01:12:09,750 --> 01:12:07,750
so this is the interview

1868
01:12:11,110 --> 01:12:09,760
yeah and uh somebody asks are you still

1869
01:12:13,590 --> 01:12:11,120
a firefighter are you being a

1870
01:12:15,910 --> 01:12:13,600
firefighter in australia or

1871
01:12:18,630 --> 01:12:15,920
i am an embalmer

1872
01:12:20,709 --> 01:12:18,640
and a bomber you're kidding me

1873
01:12:22,470 --> 01:12:20,719
nope

1874
01:12:24,630 --> 01:12:22,480
i work in the funeral industry i do

1875
01:12:26,630 --> 01:12:24,640
everything from arranging directing

1876
01:12:28,950 --> 01:12:26,640
funerals to the body preparations the

1877
01:12:30,470 --> 01:12:28,960
mortician work everything

1878
01:12:32,709 --> 01:12:30,480
all right and that's interesting did you

1879
01:12:35,990 --> 01:12:32,719
go to school for that or did you just

1880
01:12:37,590 --> 01:12:36,000
fall into it no just just came here and

1881
01:12:39,910 --> 01:12:37,600
wanted to find something to do that was

1882
01:12:41,590 --> 01:12:39,920
fun and different and i wanted to do

1883
01:12:43,750 --> 01:12:41,600
that yeah i got a friend i got a friend

1884
01:12:45,510 --> 01:12:43,760
that does that and uh i grew up with him

1885
01:12:47,110 --> 01:12:45,520
and his father owns a funeral home and

1886
01:12:49,910 --> 01:12:47,120
he never wanted to be in the business

1887
01:12:51,430 --> 01:12:49,920
but then he lost his job and and uh you

1888
01:12:53,590 --> 01:12:51,440
know his dad was like well just come and

1889
01:12:56,470 --> 01:12:53,600
work for us and and he does that now and

1890
01:13:00,070 --> 01:12:56,480
he he's very happy you know

1891
01:13:02,229 --> 01:13:00,080
um it's a strange business but everybody

1892
01:13:05,430 --> 01:13:02,239
needs everybody needs a funeral home

1893
01:13:07,910 --> 01:13:05,440
sometimes in your family you know he uh

1894
01:13:09,189 --> 01:13:07,920
he took care of my mother when she died

1895
01:13:11,270 --> 01:13:09,199
and uh

1896
01:13:12,550 --> 01:13:11,280
you know so so that was cool and he

1897
01:13:14,470 --> 01:13:12,560
didn't go to school for it either he

1898
01:13:16,950 --> 01:13:14,480
just you know his dad and his brother

1899
01:13:19,430 --> 01:13:16,960
did so he does other things around the

1900
01:13:20,870 --> 01:13:19,440
business i suppose

1901
01:13:22,470 --> 01:13:20,880
yeah i don't i don't see you turning

1902
01:13:23,990 --> 01:13:22,480
blue yet but

1903
01:13:25,510 --> 01:13:24,000
yeah i don't know exactly what point but

1904
01:13:28,550 --> 01:13:25,520
yeah it's in that and it goes for a

1905
01:13:30,870 --> 01:13:28,560
while on and off you'll see yeah

1906
01:13:33,430 --> 01:13:30,880
yeah i'm gonna see if we can't

1907
01:13:35,030 --> 01:13:33,440
if i can't preview it it doesn't look

1908
01:13:36,870 --> 01:13:35,040
very blue but that's a strange thing to

1909
01:13:41,110 --> 01:13:36,880
happen and you said this happened twice

1910
01:13:46,470 --> 01:13:43,350
something's not right there oh yeah yeah

1911
01:13:48,070 --> 01:13:46,480
there it's gonna be right here it's like

1912
01:13:49,030 --> 01:13:48,080
something went haywire and now you're

1913
01:13:49,910 --> 01:13:49,040
blue

1914
01:13:53,750 --> 01:13:49,920
oh

1915
01:13:53,760 --> 01:14:00,630
interesting strange thing to happen

1916
01:14:04,950 --> 01:14:03,270
gunner 65 says an embalmer in australia

1917
01:14:08,070 --> 01:14:04,960
i'm pretty sure every country needs

1918
01:14:10,790 --> 01:14:08,080
embalmers gunner 65.

1919
01:14:11,750 --> 01:14:10,800
yep and i'll tell you this it's amazing

1920
01:14:18,310 --> 01:14:11,760
ev

1921
01:14:21,510 --> 01:14:18,320
industry of uh the funeral industry they

1922
01:14:22,870 --> 01:14:21,520
all have had paranormal experiences all

1923
01:14:26,470 --> 01:14:22,880
well yeah i guess if you're around dead

1924
01:14:28,229 --> 01:14:26,480
people big sign oh yeah it's oh yeah

1925
01:14:29,990 --> 01:14:28,239
i've seen a few things in my time here

1926
01:14:33,270 --> 01:14:30,000
might look my short time here but oh

1927
01:14:36,709 --> 01:14:35,270
yeah so people are i see everybody's

1928
01:14:38,950 --> 01:14:36,719
detective so people are offering

1929
01:14:40,310 --> 01:14:38,960
explanations the led light is dimming

1930
01:14:42,390 --> 01:14:40,320
turning in blue

1931
01:14:44,790 --> 01:14:42,400
cheap cam

1932
01:14:47,270 --> 01:14:44,800
uh it's the camera

1933
01:14:48,950 --> 01:14:47,280
it's the lighting you know we don't know

1934
01:14:50,790 --> 01:14:48,960
but it's a strange and interesting

1935
01:14:51,910 --> 01:14:50,800
experience nonetheless

1936
01:14:53,510 --> 01:14:51,920
and uh

1937
01:14:55,030 --> 01:14:53,520
yeah yeah like i said i bought a couple

1938
01:14:56,390 --> 01:14:55,040
different camera a couple different

1939
01:14:58,070 --> 01:14:56,400
computers a couple different laptops i

1940
01:15:00,709 --> 01:14:58,080
think i trade change them out like two

1941
01:15:04,149 --> 01:15:00,719
or three times and

1942
01:15:05,510 --> 01:15:04,159
yeah when i sent that to dr gary nolan

1943
01:15:07,750 --> 01:15:05,520
and

1944
01:15:09,590 --> 01:15:07,760
his friend is dr kit green i'm sure you

1945
01:15:11,590 --> 01:15:09,600
know who that is and jack vale and all

1946
01:15:15,350 --> 01:15:11,600
them and gary nolan called me and said

1947
01:15:19,110 --> 01:15:17,350
yeah that's interesting so if it's

1948
01:15:20,709 --> 01:15:19,120
[\h__\h] i don't think that would have

1949
01:15:22,470 --> 01:15:20,719
got by those guys they have the best

1950
01:15:24,870 --> 01:15:22,480
technology to look at anything they want

1951
01:15:26,070 --> 01:15:24,880
and examine it in the world

1952
01:15:29,590 --> 01:15:26,080
so

1953
01:15:31,030 --> 01:15:29,600
deal about the ufo experience you've had

1954
01:15:33,669 --> 01:15:31,040
but what about the

1955
01:15:35,830 --> 01:15:33,679
ghosts and demons and angels because

1956
01:15:37,669 --> 01:15:35,840
you've heard from this article

1957
01:15:40,149 --> 01:15:37,679
and and again a lot of people think that

1958
01:15:42,630 --> 01:15:40,159
those things are all related and

1959
01:15:43,990 --> 01:15:42,640
you're seeing ghosts and angels and

1960
01:15:46,310 --> 01:15:44,000
demons

1961
01:15:47,510 --> 01:15:46,320
is that on the regular like like how

1962
01:15:49,510 --> 01:15:47,520
often are you having these kind of

1963
01:15:51,669 --> 01:15:49,520
experiences seeing

1964
01:15:53,830 --> 01:15:51,679
any of this stuff you have you said ufos

1965
01:15:56,390 --> 01:15:53,840
every time you try but what about

1966
01:15:58,149 --> 01:15:56,400
ghosts demons angels because i've heard

1967
01:16:00,709 --> 01:15:58,159
you've been seeing angels which is

1968
01:16:03,030 --> 01:16:00,719
strange and interesting as well

1969
01:16:05,750 --> 01:16:03,040
yeah i had one in particular life-saving

1970
01:16:07,590 --> 01:16:05,760
experience uh when i was a firefighter i

1971
01:16:09,510 --> 01:16:07,600
jumped off the truck was about to go

1972
01:16:11,830 --> 01:16:09,520
into a building

1973
01:16:13,910 --> 01:16:11,840
and i saw my grandmother's apparition

1974
01:16:16,229 --> 01:16:13,920
she passed away years prior

1975
01:16:18,550 --> 01:16:16,239
i saw her apparition and she said

1976
01:16:20,790 --> 01:16:18,560
don't go in there

1977
01:16:22,070 --> 01:16:20,800
i was like and she was gone like here

1978
01:16:23,910 --> 01:16:22,080
and then gone

1979
01:16:25,350 --> 01:16:23,920
grabbed all the stuff and i told the

1980
01:16:26,550 --> 01:16:25,360
guys i was with i said hold on just wait

1981
01:16:27,830 --> 01:16:26,560
a second

1982
01:16:29,430 --> 01:16:27,840
and then we were told all right going in

1983
01:16:31,830 --> 01:16:29,440
the top floor

1984
01:16:35,110 --> 01:16:31,840
and i said just wait and like 30 40

1985
01:16:37,030 --> 01:16:35,120
seconds later boom fire blew out of

1986
01:16:39,189 --> 01:16:37,040
every window on that floor

1987
01:16:40,630 --> 01:16:39,199
oh so it was a good call not to go in i

1988
01:16:42,550 --> 01:16:40,640
guess right

1989
01:16:44,950 --> 01:16:42,560
i never had that happen again

1990
01:16:47,510 --> 01:16:44,960
but to me that was an angelic i would

1991
01:16:49,910 --> 01:16:47,520
say an angelic type positive encounter

1992
01:16:51,910 --> 01:16:49,920
um i look at it like my grandmother's my

1993
01:16:53,510 --> 01:16:51,920
guardian angel you know whatever however

1994
01:16:54,870 --> 01:16:53,520
you want to call it because if i had not

1995
01:16:56,390 --> 01:16:54,880
listened to that or i'd gone and i would

1996
01:16:57,430 --> 01:16:56,400
have been killed that we all would have

1997
01:16:58,470 --> 01:16:57,440
been killed

1998
01:17:00,310 --> 01:16:58,480
so

1999
01:17:02,229 --> 01:17:00,320
yeah do you believe that was your you

2000
01:17:04,229 --> 01:17:02,239
mentioned before your grandmother and

2001
01:17:06,070 --> 01:17:04,239
you having this sort of pact that she

2002
01:17:07,669 --> 01:17:06,080
would come back if it's possible do you

2003
01:17:09,910 --> 01:17:07,679
believe it was your grandmother or was

2004
01:17:14,470 --> 01:17:09,920
it maybe something else taking the floor

2005
01:17:21,030 --> 01:17:17,590
it was has her voice i could hear it

2006
01:17:23,270 --> 01:17:21,040
nice and subtle and yeah

2007
01:17:25,510 --> 01:17:23,280
what about demons and angels then like

2008
01:17:27,430 --> 01:17:25,520
or you know

2009
01:17:29,270 --> 01:17:27,440
yeah i think that there's you know

2010
01:17:30,870 --> 01:17:29,280
attachments people get people get

2011
01:17:33,030 --> 01:17:30,880
attachments to things or they're going

2012
01:17:34,390 --> 01:17:33,040
through certain things in life

2013
01:17:36,149 --> 01:17:34,400
um

2014
01:17:37,750 --> 01:17:36,159
you know a lot of it's in the mind you

2015
01:17:39,110 --> 01:17:37,760
know like we can manifest types of

2016
01:17:41,350 --> 01:17:39,120
things in the mind what we know what's

2017
01:17:43,510 --> 01:17:41,360
an angel what's a demon angel just some

2018
01:17:46,390 --> 01:17:43,520
demon to others right so

2019
01:17:47,990 --> 01:17:46,400
um i believe that they're both very real

2020
01:17:50,229 --> 01:17:48,000
you know and the power we give them we

2021
01:17:51,750 --> 01:17:50,239
got to be very careful the the energy

2022
01:17:53,830 --> 01:17:51,760
that we and the focus that we put

2023
01:17:56,070 --> 01:17:53,840
towards that because these things can

2024
01:17:57,030 --> 01:17:56,080
manifest into reality we can pull them

2025
01:18:00,470 --> 01:17:57,040
in

2026
01:18:02,709 --> 01:18:00,480
um my experiences have been positive i

2027
01:18:04,790 --> 01:18:02,719
haven't had negative experiences nothing

2028
01:18:05,990 --> 01:18:04,800
like that nothing bad or evil nothing

2029
01:18:09,910 --> 01:18:06,000
like that

2030
01:18:12,550 --> 01:18:09,920
um but i've seen entities or i don't

2031
01:18:14,310 --> 01:18:12,560
want to say demons but just beings that

2032
01:18:15,910 --> 01:18:14,320
were stuck

2033
01:18:17,430 --> 01:18:15,920
stuck between here and there maybe they

2034
01:18:18,950 --> 01:18:17,440
were going through things in life and

2035
01:18:20,149 --> 01:18:18,960
they were just caught in that in between

2036
01:18:21,510 --> 01:18:20,159
phase

2037
01:18:24,070 --> 01:18:21,520
um

2038
01:18:25,750 --> 01:18:24,080
you know maybe they killed themselves or

2039
01:18:27,510 --> 01:18:25,760
you know drank themselves to death or

2040
01:18:29,270 --> 01:18:27,520
drugs or whatever

2041
01:18:31,910 --> 01:18:29,280
and i think that there's certain

2042
01:18:33,750 --> 01:18:31,920
energies out there that feed on that so

2043
01:18:35,189 --> 01:18:33,760
when people are going through things

2044
01:18:37,350 --> 01:18:35,199
there are certain energies that are out

2045
01:18:39,830 --> 01:18:37,360
there that will harness and try to

2046
01:18:42,630 --> 01:18:39,840
attach to people like that and keep them

2047
01:18:44,870 --> 01:18:42,640
in that stuck state so you know you got

2048
01:18:47,830 --> 01:18:44,880
to be real careful what you entertain

2049
01:18:51,270 --> 01:18:49,270
people are still fascinated with this

2050
01:18:53,189 --> 01:18:51,280
blue you turn in blue

2051
01:18:56,790 --> 01:18:53,199
glitch in the auto color function of the

2052
01:19:00,790 --> 01:18:56,800
camera yeah maybe yeah you know many

2053
01:19:03,030 --> 01:19:01,910
yeah so

2054
01:19:04,950 --> 01:19:03,040
so

2055
01:19:06,470 --> 01:19:04,960
what what what's next for you and what

2056
01:19:08,790 --> 01:19:06,480
have you been doing lately you mentioned

2057
01:19:11,030 --> 01:19:08,800
you you did a ufo conference talking

2058
01:19:13,270 --> 01:19:11,040
about your experience i guess but

2059
01:19:15,110 --> 01:19:13,280
what about the psychic and medium side

2060
01:19:18,070 --> 01:19:15,120
of things like what are you

2061
01:19:19,830 --> 01:19:18,080
i i i often think like it's just

2062
01:19:21,830 --> 01:19:19,840
fascinating to me like if you suddenly

2063
01:19:23,110 --> 01:19:21,840
wake up and you have these supernatural

2064
01:19:24,550 --> 01:19:23,120
abilities like

2065
01:19:26,709 --> 01:19:24,560
what is it that you do with them on a

2066
01:19:28,790 --> 01:19:26,719
day-to-day basis do you continue to try

2067
01:19:31,189 --> 01:19:28,800
to hone them and develop them and

2068
01:19:33,510 --> 01:19:31,199
exercise them get better with them do

2069
01:19:35,750 --> 01:19:33,520
you try to help people you know i would

2070
01:19:37,030 --> 01:19:35,760
think like murder investigations missing

2071
01:19:39,030 --> 01:19:37,040
people

2072
01:19:40,630 --> 01:19:39,040
i i could imagine that if you wanted to

2073
01:19:43,030 --> 01:19:40,640
you could be extremely busy trying to

2074
01:19:45,350 --> 01:19:43,040
use these gifts

2075
01:19:47,430 --> 01:19:45,360
i always looked at it like this like i

2076
01:19:48,870 --> 01:19:47,440
work my regular job right i'm in bombing

2077
01:19:51,030 --> 01:19:48,880
or whatever whatever you do for a living

2078
01:19:52,950 --> 01:19:51,040
doesn't matter and then the

2079
01:19:56,229 --> 01:19:52,960
free time that i have

2080
01:19:58,550 --> 01:19:56,239
uh through word of mouth people find me

2081
01:19:59,990 --> 01:19:58,560
i help them however i can come to peace

2082
01:20:01,110 --> 01:20:00,000
with things

2083
01:20:03,510 --> 01:20:01,120
um

2084
01:20:05,510 --> 01:20:03,520
you know and i feel like i know that

2085
01:20:07,189 --> 01:20:05,520
that's a i hate the word gift but that's

2086
01:20:09,030 --> 01:20:07,199
just something i've tapped into it's

2087
01:20:11,510 --> 01:20:09,040
something i've chose to really harness

2088
01:20:12,310 --> 01:20:11,520
and refine and get better at

2089
01:20:13,990 --> 01:20:12,320
and

2090
01:20:16,070 --> 01:20:14,000
it's not about the money you know if i

2091
01:20:18,070 --> 01:20:16,080
could do that forever and not have to

2092
01:20:20,870 --> 01:20:18,080
work ever again if i could just read

2093
01:20:23,270 --> 01:20:20,880
people and help them i'd love to do that

2094
01:20:25,030 --> 01:20:23,280
it's amazing it's a beautiful thing uh

2095
01:20:25,990 --> 01:20:25,040
but at this juncture in my life i just

2096
01:20:28,629 --> 01:20:26,000
work

2097
01:20:30,310 --> 01:20:28,639
i'll speak at conferences i won't accept

2098
01:20:31,990 --> 01:20:30,320
money i've spoken at conferences i'll

2099
01:20:33,669 --> 01:20:32,000
never take a dollar i don't need it as

2100
01:20:35,590 --> 01:20:33,679
long as i'm working a job and i have an

2101
01:20:37,110 --> 01:20:35,600
income i don't need any money from

2102
01:20:39,669 --> 01:20:37,120
anybody i'm fine

2103
01:20:41,910 --> 01:20:39,679
um so that does give you a certain level

2104
01:20:44,390 --> 01:20:41,920
of legitimacy above over and above

2105
01:20:46,470 --> 01:20:44,400
people that are taking the money so

2106
01:20:48,470 --> 01:20:46,480
some people ask me oh can i give you

2107
01:20:50,870 --> 01:20:48,480
money or pay for something i said go

2108
01:20:52,870 --> 01:20:50,880
donate it to a charity i don't want it

2109
01:20:54,709 --> 01:20:52,880
just do whatever you want with it

2110
01:20:56,550 --> 01:20:54,719
i'm just here to share my story and

2111
01:20:59,430 --> 01:20:56,560
there seems to be a lot of people asking

2112
01:21:02,390 --> 01:20:59,440
if you do any drugs and kill boys says

2113
01:21:04,470 --> 01:21:02,400
peyote shrooms is he doing drugs other

2114
01:21:05,590 --> 01:21:04,480
people say yes definitely

2115
01:21:08,229 --> 01:21:05,600
so

2116
01:21:09,189 --> 01:21:08,239
just just to clear that up and clear the

2117
01:21:10,629 --> 01:21:09,199
air

2118
01:21:12,709 --> 01:21:10,639
are you doing drugs when you're having

2119
01:21:14,709 --> 01:21:12,719
these experiences or these experiences

2120
01:21:15,830 --> 01:21:14,719
no when i met rare he was real strict

2121
01:21:18,709 --> 01:21:15,840
about even

2122
01:21:20,470 --> 01:21:18,719
having a sip of alcohol uh i don't drink

2123
01:21:21,510 --> 01:21:20,480
i don't take drugs

2124
01:21:23,910 --> 01:21:21,520
i haven't

2125
01:21:25,510 --> 01:21:23,920
god haven't drank in years so

2126
01:21:28,070 --> 01:21:25,520
uh as i got more and more into this

2127
01:21:30,310 --> 01:21:28,080
stuff i got less and less into the

2128
01:21:31,910 --> 01:21:30,320
partying going out going to concerts all

2129
01:21:34,550 --> 01:21:31,920
that crazy stuff

2130
01:21:38,790 --> 01:21:34,560
so yeah just remember you remember your

2131
01:21:41,750 --> 01:21:38,800
life though before kids andrew and now

2132
01:21:45,669 --> 01:21:41,760
it's totally 180 for me yeah i usually

2133
01:21:47,270 --> 01:21:45,679
go out partying bars concerts clubs

2134
01:21:48,870 --> 01:21:47,280
every night right

2135
01:21:50,870 --> 01:21:48,880
after those kids come you're just like

2136
01:21:52,149 --> 01:21:50,880
well i'm staying at home again tonight

2137
01:21:52,870 --> 01:21:52,159
you know

2138
01:21:54,629 --> 01:21:52,880
yeah

2139
01:21:56,870 --> 01:21:54,639
actually i'm actually right where i want

2140
01:21:58,870 --> 01:21:56,880
to be though so it's not like it's the

2141
01:22:01,189 --> 01:21:58,880
damn thing you know

2142
01:22:03,990 --> 01:22:01,199
yeah and what what do your friends and

2143
01:22:05,430 --> 01:22:04,000
family think about these gifts and and

2144
01:22:08,070 --> 01:22:05,440
what you've been doing

2145
01:22:10,390 --> 01:22:08,080
are they are are they skeptical are they

2146
01:22:12,470 --> 01:22:10,400
believers are they mixed

2147
01:22:14,149 --> 01:22:12,480
you know like i can imagine like if

2148
01:22:15,830 --> 01:22:14,159
somebody in my family came to christmas

2149
01:22:17,590 --> 01:22:15,840
dinner and suddenly announced they were

2150
01:22:18,790 --> 01:22:17,600
a psychic medium and started telling

2151
01:22:20,629 --> 01:22:18,800
everybody

2152
01:22:24,390 --> 01:22:20,639
they're talking to demons and

2153
01:22:25,990 --> 01:22:24,400
and angels and spirits and ufos maybe

2154
01:22:28,550 --> 01:22:26,000
aliens

2155
01:22:30,149 --> 01:22:28,560
you know people can be uh not so kind

2156
01:22:32,629 --> 01:22:30,159
when people come up with things like

2157
01:22:34,149 --> 01:22:32,639
this so how's your family friends wife

2158
01:22:35,270 --> 01:22:34,159
girlfriend

2159
01:22:38,149 --> 01:22:35,280
deal with this

2160
01:22:39,830 --> 01:22:38,159
these issues yeah my my wife and

2161
01:22:42,950 --> 01:22:39,840
children

2162
01:22:45,430 --> 01:22:42,960
were all contactees uh i met a girl who

2163
01:22:47,189 --> 01:22:45,440
had two children previously

2164
01:22:49,270 --> 01:22:47,199
and they were contacting pride in me

2165
01:22:52,870 --> 01:22:49,280
meeting them so

2166
01:22:54,870 --> 01:22:52,880
they understand and they're your people

2167
01:22:57,590 --> 01:22:54,880
my wife my wife is a

2168
01:22:59,830 --> 01:22:57,600
child therapist so she has a lot of kids

2169
01:23:02,709 --> 01:22:59,840
that come to her that are those

2170
01:23:04,830 --> 01:23:02,719
labeled as indigo or star children or

2171
01:23:07,110 --> 01:23:04,840
have these special abilities

2172
01:23:08,950 --> 01:23:07,120
because um they can't go to a normal

2173
01:23:09,750 --> 01:23:08,960
therapist they can't help them they

2174
01:23:11,750 --> 01:23:09,760
don't they think they're nuts they'll

2175
01:23:14,149 --> 01:23:11,760
throw them in a psych ward but because

2176
01:23:16,550 --> 01:23:14,159
of my wife developing her abilities

2177
01:23:17,590 --> 01:23:16,560
she's been able to help young kids

2178
01:23:19,510 --> 01:23:17,600
um

2179
01:23:21,350 --> 01:23:19,520
you know go on their journey and go

2180
01:23:23,510 --> 01:23:21,360
through life because she knows this

2181
01:23:25,990 --> 01:23:23,520
phenomenon is real so yeah

2182
01:23:27,990 --> 01:23:26,000
she does some great work my family knows

2183
01:23:29,750 --> 01:23:28,000
they've known forever my mom is like

2184
01:23:30,709 --> 01:23:29,760
yeah it's all real just don't talk about

2185
01:23:32,870 --> 01:23:30,719
it

2186
01:23:35,030 --> 01:23:32,880
well too late

2187
01:23:37,590 --> 01:23:35,040
yeah especially publicly right and

2188
01:23:39,830 --> 01:23:37,600
anthony purcell got a question ask him

2189
01:23:43,270 --> 01:23:39,840
if he has any psychic messages for you

2190
01:23:44,709 --> 01:23:43,280
or uh for anybody here i guess uh

2191
01:23:47,430 --> 01:23:44,719
anybody's here

2192
01:23:49,830 --> 01:23:47,440
if you have any messages stephen

2193
01:23:51,830 --> 01:23:49,840
uh yeah

2194
01:23:53,189 --> 01:23:51,840
no because the last time i did that

2195
01:23:54,310 --> 01:23:53,199
i remember last time i read somebody

2196
01:23:56,070 --> 01:23:54,320
live

2197
01:23:57,510 --> 01:23:56,080
so yeah read rearing me tell me anything

2198
01:23:58,870 --> 01:23:57,520
whatever it is

2199
01:24:00,629 --> 01:23:58,880
and uh

2200
01:24:02,310 --> 01:24:00,639
yeah it doesn't go that way

2201
01:24:04,470 --> 01:24:02,320
and then we went to the break and then i

2202
01:24:05,669 --> 01:24:04,480
said um are you ready to share with the

2203
01:24:06,629 --> 01:24:05,679
audience that you just took your

2204
01:24:08,390 --> 01:24:06,639
girlfriend

2205
01:24:10,149 --> 01:24:08,400
for an abortion a month ago and they

2206
01:24:13,030 --> 01:24:10,159
were like no i said that's why i'm not

2207
01:24:15,270 --> 01:24:13,040
going to read you right now so

2208
01:24:17,110 --> 01:24:15,280
i'm broke oh no

2209
01:24:19,350 --> 01:24:17,120
oh no

2210
01:24:21,270 --> 01:24:19,360
so now when i sit and read people it's

2211
01:24:22,950 --> 01:24:21,280
usually 90 minutes nothing like that i

2212
01:24:24,950 --> 01:24:22,960
don't do short little things

2213
01:24:27,110 --> 01:24:24,960
but people i tell them reach out to me

2214
01:24:29,350 --> 01:24:27,120
they email me contact me if they want a

2215
01:24:31,590 --> 01:24:29,360
reading i'll fit them in obviously when

2216
01:24:32,550 --> 01:24:31,600
i can family first like always

2217
01:24:33,990 --> 01:24:32,560
um

2218
01:24:35,510 --> 01:24:34,000
but yeah especially because you don't

2219
01:24:36,950 --> 01:24:35,520
charge for people and just so people

2220
01:24:38,470 --> 01:24:36,960
understand i think

2221
01:24:40,149 --> 01:24:38,480
some people in our live chat has heard

2222
01:24:41,990 --> 01:24:40,159
this story before but

2223
01:24:44,950 --> 01:24:42,000
you know i was doing i was doing stage

2224
01:24:47,830 --> 01:24:44,960
magic shows for a while and then i got a

2225
01:24:49,750 --> 01:24:47,840
new agent who said well i really need a

2226
01:24:51,189 --> 01:24:49,760
psychic and i said oh i'm not gonna you

2227
01:24:53,830 --> 01:24:51,199
know i could fake it but i'm not gonna

2228
01:24:55,350 --> 01:24:53,840
do it there is so much money in being a

2229
01:24:57,590 --> 01:24:55,360
psychic that

2230
01:25:00,149 --> 01:24:57,600
it was something like orders of

2231
01:25:01,910 --> 01:25:00,159
magnitude above what i could get doing

2232
01:25:03,510 --> 01:25:01,920
regular magic shoes if i just went there

2233
01:25:05,110 --> 01:25:03,520
and said hey i'm a psychic and did a

2234
01:25:06,149 --> 01:25:05,120
bunch of psychic tricks and did some

2235
01:25:08,390 --> 01:25:06,159
readings

2236
01:25:09,270 --> 01:25:08,400
it would have been like 1500 a show or

2237
01:25:12,229 --> 01:25:09,280
something

2238
01:25:13,990 --> 01:25:12,239
really really high high value money as

2239
01:25:15,350 --> 01:25:14,000
opposed to being a magician

2240
01:25:18,310 --> 01:25:15,360
where you know when you're starting out

2241
01:25:20,310 --> 01:25:18,320
especially it's 300 500 if you're lucky

2242
01:25:21,430 --> 01:25:20,320
later i got to that level just doing

2243
01:25:23,110 --> 01:25:21,440
magic but

2244
01:25:25,110 --> 01:25:23,120
it's interesting that there's that much

2245
01:25:28,070 --> 01:25:25,120
money and i did it what was called a

2246
01:25:30,470 --> 01:25:28,080
mentalism show for a while but i always

2247
01:25:33,990 --> 01:25:30,480
put this disclaimer in saying you know i

2248
01:25:35,910 --> 01:25:34,000
use my my five senses and conjuring and

2249
01:25:37,830 --> 01:25:35,920
trickery to give you an illusion of a

2250
01:25:39,830 --> 01:25:37,840
sixth sense and he's like no you gotta

2251
01:25:41,510 --> 01:25:39,840
take that out don't tell him you're fake

2252
01:25:43,430 --> 01:25:41,520
and i'm like no i'm gonna do this the

2253
01:25:45,830 --> 01:25:43,440
honest way i'm not gonna pretend that i

2254
01:25:47,030 --> 01:25:45,840
have super powers and then he was pissed

2255
01:25:48,629 --> 01:25:47,040
he really wanted me he's like you know

2256
01:25:49,430 --> 01:25:48,639
how many bookings i could get if you

2257
01:25:52,870 --> 01:25:49,440
just

2258
01:25:54,229 --> 01:25:52,880
psychic

2259
01:25:56,149 --> 01:25:54,239
you know but i didn't feel good doing

2260
01:25:57,990 --> 01:25:56,159
that so but there is huge amounts of

2261
01:25:59,510 --> 01:25:58,000
money because

2262
01:26:01,669 --> 01:25:59,520
along with

2263
01:26:03,669 --> 01:26:01,679
bookers of entertainment like magicians

2264
01:26:05,910 --> 01:26:03,679
singers comedians they also book

2265
01:26:09,270 --> 01:26:05,920
psychics and some of those psychics can

2266
01:26:11,590 --> 01:26:09,280
get 1500 bucks to show up someplace

2267
01:26:13,590 --> 01:26:11,600
do an hour presentation or talk about

2268
01:26:16,870 --> 01:26:13,600
how they got their superpowers and then

2269
01:26:19,990 --> 01:26:16,880
give readings 1500 bucks a shot that's a

2270
01:26:22,390 --> 01:26:20,000
lot of money for for andrew to just say

2271
01:26:25,110 --> 01:26:22,400
i'm not interested but i i

2272
01:26:27,350 --> 01:26:25,120
i certainly appreciate you doing that

2273
01:26:29,830 --> 01:26:27,360
because it takes away

2274
01:26:31,830 --> 01:26:29,840
the first attack that i have for so many

2275
01:26:33,189 --> 01:26:31,840
psychics is well you're profiting from

2276
01:26:35,510 --> 01:26:33,199
this and if this is some sort of

2277
01:26:37,910 --> 01:26:35,520
god-given talent shouldn't you be you

2278
01:26:40,629 --> 01:26:37,920
know finding missing children or doing

2279
01:26:43,110 --> 01:26:40,639
something other than you know

2280
01:26:45,189 --> 01:26:43,120
doing parties with rich women basically

2281
01:26:46,950 --> 01:26:45,199
taking their money talking to their dead

2282
01:26:49,270 --> 01:26:46,960
relatives i always have a problem with

2283
01:26:50,390 --> 01:26:49,280
the money aspect of it which is one of

2284
01:26:52,390 --> 01:26:50,400
the reasons i wanted to talk to you

2285
01:26:54,070 --> 01:26:52,400
because i go well here's somebody i

2286
01:26:56,310 --> 01:26:54,080
can't get on the money because he's

2287
01:26:57,430 --> 01:26:56,320
saying i'm not taking it i just i'm not

2288
01:26:59,189 --> 01:26:57,440
taking it

2289
01:27:00,709 --> 01:26:59,199
and so you mentioned that people can get

2290
01:27:02,390 --> 01:27:00,719
readings from you that's interesting you

2291
01:27:03,590 --> 01:27:02,400
just try to fit people in when you can

2292
01:27:05,189 --> 01:27:03,600
because right it's not like you have a

2293
01:27:08,870 --> 01:27:05,199
financial motive

2294
01:27:12,550 --> 01:27:10,870
pretty interesting so

2295
01:27:14,310 --> 01:27:12,560
are you planning on ever coming back to

2296
01:27:16,229 --> 01:27:14,320
the united states are you just stuck in

2297
01:27:18,310 --> 01:27:16,239
australia now forever or are you gonna

2298
01:27:20,950 --> 01:27:18,320
stay there yeah yeah at some point i'll

2299
01:27:23,030 --> 01:27:20,960
be back in america uh during during

2300
01:27:24,470 --> 01:27:23,040
lockdown there was nothing else to do

2301
01:27:26,310 --> 01:27:24,480
anyway so

2302
01:27:29,030 --> 01:27:26,320
i never thought i'd write but i started

2303
01:27:30,550 --> 01:27:29,040
writing everything from

2304
01:27:32,629 --> 01:27:30,560
anything and everything about my life

2305
01:27:34,070 --> 01:27:32,639
experience and where i've been and just

2306
01:27:35,830 --> 01:27:34,080
things i've experienced in life so i

2307
01:27:37,910 --> 01:27:35,840
just wrote out everything and that's how

2308
01:27:40,149 --> 01:27:37,920
it's been really cool to put it down on

2309
01:27:41,830 --> 01:27:40,159
paper and really freeing and

2310
01:27:43,669 --> 01:27:41,840
cool to see what i've done and people

2311
01:27:45,510 --> 01:27:43,679
are having a journey well here's a

2312
01:27:48,149 --> 01:27:45,520
general one that you might not mind

2313
01:27:50,550 --> 01:27:48,159
answering killboy is asking

2314
01:27:52,870 --> 01:27:50,560
you to ask the spirits when the lockdown

2315
01:27:55,910 --> 01:27:52,880
will be over in australia i just want to

2316
01:27:57,990 --> 01:27:55,920
mention i i hear what's going over there

2317
01:27:59,830 --> 01:27:58,000
going on over there i got a few

2318
01:28:02,310 --> 01:27:59,840
different friends one a journalist and

2319
01:28:03,990 --> 01:28:02,320
he's like i cannot believe that this has

2320
01:28:06,149 --> 01:28:04,000
happened to our country

2321
01:28:08,709 --> 01:28:06,159
they're hauling people away and they're

2322
01:28:11,189 --> 01:28:08,719
you know arresting people and it's

2323
01:28:13,350 --> 01:28:11,199
really like some sort of breakdown of

2324
01:28:14,629 --> 01:28:13,360
democracy and what we thought was the

2325
01:28:16,070 --> 01:28:14,639
norm

2326
01:28:17,270 --> 01:28:16,080
these things that are happening over

2327
01:28:19,430 --> 01:28:17,280
there i never would have thought

2328
01:28:21,590 --> 01:28:19,440
australia would be like that ever

2329
01:28:23,510 --> 01:28:21,600
because i just equate australia and

2330
01:28:26,229 --> 01:28:23,520
england is like it's not the united

2331
01:28:27,430 --> 01:28:26,239
states but we have similar ideals and

2332
01:28:30,550 --> 01:28:27,440
you know

2333
01:28:32,070 --> 01:28:30,560
similar morality structures so i can't

2334
01:28:34,950 --> 01:28:32,080
believe what's going on over there

2335
01:28:40,550 --> 01:28:38,229
so they're doing new lockdowns now right

2336
01:28:42,229 --> 01:28:40,560
yeah there's all sorts of stuff man

2337
01:28:44,390 --> 01:28:42,239
it depends on the region too i'm

2338
01:28:46,470 --> 01:28:44,400
learning that yes

2339
01:28:48,070 --> 01:28:46,480
are more open and some regions are like

2340
01:28:49,270 --> 01:28:48,080
totally locked down you can't even leave

2341
01:28:51,750 --> 01:28:49,280
your house

2342
01:28:54,470 --> 01:28:51,760
you know crazy

2343
01:28:56,629 --> 01:28:54,480
yeah it's serious it's bad

2344
01:28:58,790 --> 01:28:56,639
yeah v made is a good point having high

2345
01:28:59,590 --> 01:28:58,800
intuitiveness precognition postcard must

2346
01:29:02,070 --> 01:28:59,600
be

2347
01:29:03,590 --> 01:29:02,080
lonely and isolating at times especially

2348
01:29:06,149 --> 01:29:03,600
during the lockdown like do you go a

2349
01:29:07,110 --> 01:29:06,159
little crazy being stuck in one place

2350
01:29:08,870 --> 01:29:07,120
and not

2351
01:29:10,470 --> 01:29:08,880
because if you if you're constantly

2352
01:29:13,110 --> 01:29:10,480
having these weird experiences and

2353
01:29:15,030 --> 01:29:13,120
you're stuck in your house

2354
01:29:18,070 --> 01:29:15,040
has that been difficult for you

2355
01:29:20,070 --> 01:29:18,080
um no it was great actually because i

2356
01:29:23,189 --> 01:29:20,080
get up early in the morning 4 35 i'm

2357
01:29:24,629 --> 01:29:23,199
outside filming recording so

2358
01:29:25,830 --> 01:29:24,639
i got to do a lot of things that i

2359
01:29:27,270 --> 01:29:25,840
normally wouldn't do if i was out and

2360
01:29:29,270 --> 01:29:27,280
about so i said there's nothing else to

2361
01:29:31,669 --> 01:29:29,280
do i might as well sit outside at night

2362
01:29:34,149 --> 01:29:31,679
sit you know get up early in the morning

2363
01:29:36,629 --> 01:29:34,159
and do a ce5 and start recording and

2364
01:29:37,669 --> 01:29:36,639
documenting my experience through all of

2365
01:29:39,510 --> 01:29:37,679
this and

2366
01:29:40,950 --> 01:29:39,520
yeah i changed it for the first time

2367
01:29:42,870 --> 01:29:40,960
stalked the first lockdown and then the

2368
01:29:44,470 --> 01:29:42,880
second one i was like [\h__\h] this i'm not

2369
01:29:45,750 --> 01:29:44,480
gonna sit around miserably

2370
01:29:47,830 --> 01:29:45,760
let's do something you know you know

2371
01:29:50,390 --> 01:29:47,840
what i thought when ours was happening

2372
01:29:52,950 --> 01:29:50,400
here is like i'm i'm really introverted

2373
01:29:54,709 --> 01:29:52,960
like i used to be a go out and party

2374
01:29:56,390 --> 01:29:54,719
person but now i'm like

2375
01:29:58,629 --> 01:29:56,400
i would rather stay home than anything

2376
01:30:00,709 --> 01:29:58,639
else so i'm perfectly designed to handle

2377
01:30:03,910 --> 01:30:00,719
this you know i got all these computers

2378
01:30:05,990 --> 01:30:03,920
and video games and electronics projects

2379
01:30:07,590 --> 01:30:06,000
and robots to work like all this stuff

2380
01:30:09,750 --> 01:30:07,600
to work on that i never have time to

2381
01:30:11,669 --> 01:30:09,760
work on so that's what i did and built

2382
01:30:13,430 --> 01:30:11,679
this show as well i built this show

2383
01:30:15,030 --> 01:30:13,440
starting on the lockdown as soon as the

2384
01:30:16,870 --> 01:30:15,040
lockdown started i'm like i'm going to

2385
01:30:18,950 --> 01:30:16,880
do a new show and see what happens i've

2386
01:30:21,669 --> 01:30:18,960
got the time so i guess it could be a

2387
01:30:24,149 --> 01:30:21,679
benefit though

2388
01:30:26,310 --> 01:30:24,159
oh yeah absolutely

2389
01:30:28,149 --> 01:30:26,320
for some people so you said that you're

2390
01:30:29,830 --> 01:30:28,159
like you're like writing a lot of stuff

2391
01:30:31,510 --> 01:30:29,840
are you working on a book that maybe you

2392
01:30:34,310 --> 01:30:31,520
could

2393
01:30:36,790 --> 01:30:34,320
uh yeah yeah it's it's going in that

2394
01:30:39,189 --> 01:30:36,800
direction i'm pretty

2395
01:30:41,750 --> 01:30:39,199
i'd say pretty close to just about

2396
01:30:44,629 --> 01:30:41,760
finished um well don't give that away

2397
01:30:47,910 --> 01:30:46,149
that could be your hook like look i'll

2398
01:30:50,070 --> 01:30:47,920
give you a free psychic reading but the

2399
01:30:51,669 --> 01:30:50,080
book you got to buy it's on amazon or

2400
01:30:53,590 --> 01:30:51,679
whatever you know whatever yeah of

2401
01:30:55,189 --> 01:30:53,600
course of course and just to be clear

2402
01:30:57,030 --> 01:30:55,199
because i'm sure i'm going to get emails

2403
01:30:58,790 --> 01:30:57,040
i don't have any problem with anybody

2404
01:31:01,910 --> 01:30:58,800
making a living but it just seems like

2405
01:31:03,669 --> 01:31:01,920
some of these people go too far you know

2406
01:31:06,310 --> 01:31:03,679
it's just too much

2407
01:31:09,270 --> 01:31:06,320
it's too much green you know

2408
01:31:12,550 --> 01:31:09,280
i agree i totally agree but yeah i'm

2409
01:31:15,030 --> 01:31:12,560
right and hey wherever it goes it goes

2410
01:31:16,470 --> 01:31:15,040
and there's a lot more it hasn't ended

2411
01:31:18,149 --> 01:31:16,480
you know there's just experiences

2412
01:31:19,189 --> 01:31:18,159
happening all the time more and more

2413
01:31:21,110 --> 01:31:19,199
people are talking about these

2414
01:31:23,189 --> 01:31:21,120
experiences all over the place now it's

2415
01:31:24,790 --> 01:31:23,199
a common thing so especially after going

2416
01:31:26,310 --> 01:31:24,800
through covenant and all this [\h__\h]

2417
01:31:27,990 --> 01:31:26,320
you're gonna hear a lot of cool stories

2418
01:31:29,669 --> 01:31:28,000
coming out of lockdown and

2419
01:31:31,669 --> 01:31:29,679
spiritual awakenings and things that

2420
01:31:33,030 --> 01:31:31,679
have happened to people so 2022 is going

2421
01:31:34,790 --> 01:31:33,040
to be a cool yeah

2422
01:31:36,390 --> 01:31:34,800
okay and i did get your private message

2423
01:31:38,470 --> 01:31:36,400
and if you don't think that band that

2424
01:31:40,149 --> 01:31:38,480
you contributed those things would uh

2425
01:31:42,229 --> 01:31:40,159
mind i have their video that we could

2426
01:31:44,390 --> 01:31:42,239
yeah that has some of your things and

2427
01:31:45,910 --> 01:31:44,400
you know yeah and i was shooting for 90

2428
01:31:48,149 --> 01:31:45,920
minutes so we're just over that i

2429
01:31:50,790 --> 01:31:48,159
apologize uh and he's got some family

2430
01:31:52,550 --> 01:31:50,800
stuff going on and he's got it run but

2431
01:31:53,910 --> 01:31:52,560
what we're going to do uh andrew is

2432
01:31:55,510 --> 01:31:53,920
first of all invite you back because

2433
01:31:56,950 --> 01:31:55,520
this has been a fascinating conversation

2434
01:31:59,189 --> 01:31:56,960
and i'm sure that my audience and i

2435
01:32:00,870 --> 01:31:59,199
would both like to learn more and go a

2436
01:32:02,550 --> 01:32:00,880
little more in depth and maybe we'll do

2437
01:32:04,470 --> 01:32:02,560
another shot at that

2438
01:32:05,669 --> 01:32:04,480
but in the meantime i'm going to play uh

2439
01:32:07,430 --> 01:32:05,679
play

2440
01:32:08,950 --> 01:32:07,440
we'll let andrew go i'm going to we're

2441
01:32:10,390 --> 01:32:08,960
going to take a short musical break i'm

2442
01:32:14,070 --> 01:32:10,400
going to be playing a musical guest

2443
01:32:16,310 --> 01:32:14,080
tonight that has his videos of ufos in

2444
01:32:18,070 --> 01:32:16,320
the music video and when we come back

2445
01:32:19,750 --> 01:32:18,080
we'll read all the super chats and i'll

2446
01:32:21,430 --> 01:32:19,760
devote my full total attention to the

2447
01:32:22,470 --> 01:32:21,440
live chat so i want to thank andrew for

2448
01:32:24,390 --> 01:32:22,480
doing this

2449
01:32:26,629 --> 01:32:24,400
interesting and fascinating guy i hope

2450
01:32:29,030 --> 01:32:26,639
that you will return andrew

2451
01:32:31,030 --> 01:32:29,040
yeah definitely anytime steve thank you

2452
01:32:32,870 --> 01:32:31,040
all right thanks for doing this well

2453
01:32:34,790 --> 01:32:32,880
there you go friends what a fascinating

2454
01:32:36,870 --> 01:32:34,800
and interesting individual and i gotta

2455
01:32:38,550 --> 01:32:36,880
say once again one of the reasons that i

2456
01:32:41,030 --> 01:32:38,560
was interested in talking to him is

2457
01:32:42,229 --> 01:32:41,040
because of the money situation he's not

2458
01:32:44,310 --> 01:32:42,239
taking any

2459
01:32:46,950 --> 01:32:44,320
and do you know how rare that is that

2460
01:32:49,750 --> 01:32:46,960
somebody says i'm a psychic medium and

2461
01:32:52,629 --> 01:32:49,760
they don't or refuse to take money

2462
01:32:55,350 --> 01:32:52,639
i've only encountered one other person

2463
01:32:57,669 --> 01:32:55,360
and to be very honest with you in my

2464
01:33:02,149 --> 01:32:57,679
life-long study of people claiming to be

2465
01:33:04,229 --> 01:33:02,159
psychic and call it a uh a hobby

2466
01:33:06,629 --> 01:33:04,239
since i was very young i was very

2467
01:33:08,390 --> 01:33:06,639
interested and and fascinated by people

2468
01:33:10,709 --> 01:33:08,400
who claim to have psychic abilities in

2469
01:33:12,229 --> 01:33:10,719
fact one of my first jobs i talked about

2470
01:33:14,550 --> 01:33:12,239
this on another show

2471
01:33:17,030 --> 01:33:14,560
is that i worked for the neighborhood

2472
01:33:19,669 --> 01:33:17,040
like gypsy psychic lady

2473
01:33:21,189 --> 01:33:19,679
you know her name was miss o'garay and i

2474
01:33:22,629 --> 01:33:21,199
would put the flyers all around the

2475
01:33:24,229 --> 01:33:22,639
neighborhood for her to get business

2476
01:33:25,669 --> 01:33:24,239
with but then eventually

2477
01:33:28,070 --> 01:33:25,679
i figured out that she was telling

2478
01:33:30,550 --> 01:33:28,080
everybody the same exact psychic reading

2479
01:33:32,229 --> 01:33:30,560
so i figured out she was fake

2480
01:33:34,229 --> 01:33:32,239
but my whole life i've been fascinated

2481
01:33:36,310 --> 01:33:34,239
and interested in looking in on

2482
01:33:38,390 --> 01:33:36,320
investigating some of these people

2483
01:33:39,510 --> 01:33:38,400
making the claims to have psychic

2484
01:33:41,510 --> 01:33:39,520
abilities

2485
01:33:43,669 --> 01:33:41,520
and only one other time in my entire

2486
01:33:46,390 --> 01:33:43,679
life have i ever encountered somebody

2487
01:33:48,390 --> 01:33:46,400
who refused who's claimed these gifts

2488
01:33:50,950 --> 01:33:48,400
that refused to take money

2489
01:33:55,270 --> 01:33:50,960
and that person

2490
01:33:57,510 --> 01:33:55,280
to me was the one person whose gifts i

2491
01:33:59,669 --> 01:33:57,520
could not explain

2492
01:34:01,990 --> 01:33:59,679
and so when i heard about andrew

2493
01:34:04,310 --> 01:34:02,000
especially andrew not taking money i was

2494
01:34:05,110 --> 01:34:04,320
instantly intrigued hoping that he would

2495
01:34:10,149 --> 01:34:05,120
be

2496
01:34:11,990 --> 01:34:10,159
other person who i could do a whole show

2497
01:34:14,629 --> 01:34:12,000
on her

2498
01:34:17,750 --> 01:34:14,639
maybe we'll talk about her another time

2499
01:34:19,750 --> 01:34:17,760
but the other person that would not take

2500
01:34:22,870 --> 01:34:19,760
money i tested

2501
01:34:24,870 --> 01:34:22,880
and she was very open to being tested

2502
01:34:26,390 --> 01:34:24,880
and interested in the whole process like

2503
01:34:28,629 --> 01:34:26,400
well how are you gonna

2504
01:34:30,550 --> 01:34:28,639
how are you gonna test me and and what

2505
01:34:32,790 --> 01:34:30,560
kind of tests did you have in mind and i

2506
01:34:35,350 --> 01:34:32,800
came up with uh you know we used

2507
01:34:37,030 --> 01:34:35,360
uh those sort of psychic intuition cards

2508
01:34:39,350 --> 01:34:37,040
with the symbols to see what her

2509
01:34:41,270 --> 01:34:39,360
accuracy rating was when i would look at

2510
01:34:42,070 --> 01:34:41,280
the card and try to transmit it to her

2511
01:34:44,149 --> 01:34:42,080
and

2512
01:34:46,470 --> 01:34:44,159
it was her accuracy rating was much

2513
01:34:48,470 --> 01:34:46,480
greater than chance and we tested a

2514
01:34:50,629 --> 01:34:48,480
person that had no and they were just

2515
01:34:52,950 --> 01:34:50,639
guessing and then we tested her and

2516
01:34:54,470 --> 01:34:52,960
um we did a whole battery of tests with

2517
01:34:56,550 --> 01:34:54,480
her actually including some remote

2518
01:34:58,830 --> 01:34:56,560
viewing and some uh

2519
01:35:00,870 --> 01:34:58,840
precognition sort of

2520
01:35:03,750 --> 01:35:00,880
experiments uh

2521
01:35:05,910 --> 01:35:03,760
you know uh hidden knowledge here's some

2522
01:35:07,510 --> 01:35:05,920
information we'll seal in an envelope

2523
01:35:09,030 --> 01:35:07,520
and put it in a safe there's no way she

2524
01:35:10,950 --> 01:35:09,040
could know what it says let's see if she

2525
01:35:13,510 --> 01:35:10,960
could if she could tell us what it said

2526
01:35:16,390 --> 01:35:13,520
in at least one case she did

2527
01:35:18,629 --> 01:35:16,400
which blew me away and again

2528
01:35:19,990 --> 01:35:18,639
the reason i was so fascinated with her

2529
01:35:22,790 --> 01:35:20,000
was because

2530
01:35:25,830 --> 01:35:22,800
she actually spent her time

2531
01:35:26,629 --> 01:35:25,840
uh doing missing persons cases and using

2532
01:35:28,709 --> 01:35:26,639
her

2533
01:35:30,950 --> 01:35:28,719
intuitive abilities which is how she

2534
01:35:32,790 --> 01:35:30,960
described it she didn't claim she didn't

2535
01:35:34,149 --> 01:35:32,800
like the term psychic she said no no i'm

2536
01:35:36,310 --> 01:35:34,159
an intuitive

2537
01:35:38,470 --> 01:35:36,320
whatever that means and she would go on

2538
01:35:40,470 --> 01:35:38,480
to explain to me that

2539
01:35:43,030 --> 01:35:40,480
she just had a very highly developed

2540
01:35:45,109 --> 01:35:43,040
sense of intuition much greater than

2541
01:35:46,950 --> 01:35:45,119
most people's and her belief was that

2542
01:35:49,109 --> 01:35:46,960
you could exercise that gift of

2543
01:35:50,870 --> 01:35:49,119
intuition just like a muscle you know a

2544
01:35:53,270 --> 01:35:50,880
bodybuilder can

2545
01:35:55,510 --> 01:35:53,280
can gain muscle mass well an intuitive

2546
01:35:58,790 --> 01:35:55,520
can gain more intuition or greater

2547
01:36:00,550 --> 01:35:58,800
intuition by continually exercising it

2548
01:36:02,870 --> 01:36:00,560
um but in any case i'm just mentioning

2549
01:36:04,870 --> 01:36:02,880
her because that's what led me one of

2550
01:36:07,030 --> 01:36:04,880
the reasons that led me to

2551
01:36:07,990 --> 01:36:07,040
to this person was

2552
01:36:12,070 --> 01:36:08,000
i

2553
01:36:13,990 --> 01:36:12,080
for the same reasons because he's not

2554
01:36:15,590 --> 01:36:14,000
taking money he's not trying to cash in

2555
01:36:16,950 --> 01:36:15,600
hey maybe he's going to write a book

2556
01:36:20,390 --> 01:36:16,960
that should be some money for him and i

2557
01:36:21,669 --> 01:36:20,400
hope it is um you know

2558
01:36:23,109 --> 01:36:21,679
but

2559
01:36:25,910 --> 01:36:23,119
most of the people that claim these

2560
01:36:29,590 --> 01:36:25,920
abilities they are awake they're all

2561
01:36:31,990 --> 01:36:29,600
cashing in big time and again uh andrew

2562
01:36:33,590 --> 01:36:32,000
is only the second person i've ever

2563
01:36:35,510 --> 01:36:33,600
encountered my entire life claiming

2564
01:36:37,990 --> 01:36:35,520
these abilities that have these

2565
01:36:39,990 --> 01:36:38,000
experiences that is not taking money and

2566
01:36:41,189 --> 01:36:40,000
also interesting to me

2567
01:36:43,510 --> 01:36:41,199
andrew has

2568
01:36:45,590 --> 01:36:43,520
some pictures and videos of his

2569
01:36:47,270 --> 01:36:45,600
experiences and he has collected stuff

2570
01:36:50,229 --> 01:36:47,280
up over the years to sort of try to

2571
01:36:51,990 --> 01:36:50,239
document some of his experiences a lot

2572
01:36:54,550 --> 01:36:52,000
of experiences or people claiming these

2573
01:36:56,629 --> 01:36:54,560
things all i have is a story

2574
01:36:58,550 --> 01:36:56,639
andrew's got much more and i would be

2575
01:36:59,510 --> 01:36:58,560
interested in um

2576
01:37:05,270 --> 01:36:59,520
in

2577
01:37:07,270 --> 01:37:05,280
experiences hopefully he'll come back

2578
01:37:10,229 --> 01:37:07,280
right

2579
01:37:13,030 --> 01:37:10,950
so

2580
01:37:15,590 --> 01:37:13,040
we have a musical guest tonight brought

2581
01:37:17,990 --> 01:37:15,600
to us again by andrew because he

2582
01:37:20,310 --> 01:37:18,000
contributed a bunch of ufo videos to

2583
01:37:22,550 --> 01:37:20,320
this music video it's from a group

2584
01:37:24,629 --> 01:37:22,560
called uh the feels collective and the

2585
01:37:26,310 --> 01:37:24,639
song is called initiative so we're going

2586
01:37:27,910 --> 01:37:26,320
to take a short musical break and when i

2587
01:37:29,350 --> 01:37:27,920
return

2588
01:37:30,870 --> 01:37:29,360
i'm going to read all the super chats

2589
01:37:32,550 --> 01:37:30,880
for those who don't know we're a viewer

2590
01:37:34,629 --> 01:37:32,560
supported show there's a money button

2591
01:37:37,109 --> 01:37:34,639
down there click that money buttons send

2592
01:37:39,270 --> 01:37:37,119
us some money put a few bucks in our hat

2593
01:37:40,790 --> 01:37:39,280
to keep us producing content like this

2594
01:37:42,310 --> 01:37:40,800
for all to enjoy

2595
01:37:44,070 --> 01:37:42,320
we are a viewer supported show a few

2596
01:37:45,669 --> 01:37:44,080
ways you can do that you can sign up for

2597
01:37:48,070 --> 01:37:45,679
a patreon for as little as a dollar a

2598
01:37:50,070 --> 01:37:48,080
month we give out extra content and

2599
01:37:52,149 --> 01:37:50,080
patreon only streams we do a monthly

2600
01:37:54,149 --> 01:37:52,159
show journal uh sort of behind the

2601
01:37:56,229 --> 01:37:54,159
scenes look and also all my music is on

2602
01:37:58,149 --> 01:37:56,239
patreon the other way to support us is

2603
01:38:00,790 --> 01:37:58,159
make a paypal donation the instructions

2604
01:38:03,990 --> 01:38:00,800
to do that are in the description of

2605
01:38:06,070 --> 01:38:04,000
this video be sure to add a note and

2606
01:38:08,470 --> 01:38:06,080
give us your live chat user id and any

2607
01:38:10,470 --> 01:38:08,480
message you want us to shout out if you

2608
01:38:12,149 --> 01:38:10,480
send a paypal donation if you set a

2609
01:38:15,270 --> 01:38:12,159
super chat you could just write in

2610
01:38:17,109 --> 01:38:15,280
whatever you want and we will read every

2611
01:38:18,870 --> 01:38:17,119
one of the super chats we always read

2612
01:38:20,550 --> 01:38:18,880
every one of the super chats

2613
01:38:22,310 --> 01:38:20,560
and we're so thankful for all the

2614
01:38:23,350 --> 01:38:22,320
kindness generosity and the support of

2615
01:38:25,270 --> 01:38:23,360
the show

2616
01:38:26,950 --> 01:38:25,280
anybody can send a super chat it's that

2617
01:38:28,470 --> 01:38:26,960
money button down there so we're going

2618
01:38:29,590 --> 01:38:28,480
to take a short musical break when i

2619
01:38:31,750 --> 01:38:29,600
return we're going to read all the

2620
01:38:33,430 --> 01:38:31,760
paypal donations all the super chats for

2621
01:38:35,590 --> 01:38:33,440
today and then

2622
01:38:37,030 --> 01:38:35,600
any comments or questions for me or we

2623
01:38:39,830 --> 01:38:37,040
can have an open discussion about

2624
01:38:42,310 --> 01:38:39,840
tonight's guests and all things related

2625
01:38:44,550 --> 01:38:42,320
i will devote my full attention to the

2626
01:38:52,260 --> 01:38:44,560
live chat when we return

2627
01:38:52,270 --> 01:39:02,149
[Music]

2628
01:39:02,159 --> 01:39:09,050
so

2629
01:39:38,629 --> 01:39:20,550
[Music]

2630
01:39:38,639 --> 01:39:42,930
expected

2631
01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:46,390
[Music]

2632
01:39:58,690 --> 01:39:51,390
[Applause]

2633
01:40:08,470 --> 01:40:07,189
[Music]

2634
01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:08,480
we're here

2635
01:40:12,270 --> 01:40:11,170
for education

2636
01:40:26,310 --> 01:40:12,280
[Applause]

2637
01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:38,820
so

2638
01:41:01,990 --> 01:40:41,189
[Music]

2639
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:11,730
we made a strong connection

2640
01:41:46,950 --> 01:41:18,330
[Music]

2641
01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:52,229
i know what you're trying to do

2642
01:41:52,239 --> 01:41:57,430
i can see you see me too

2643
01:41:57,440 --> 01:42:04,080
i know what you're trying to do

2644
01:42:04,090 --> 01:42:13,030
[Music]

2645
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:19,510
i can see you see me too

2646
01:42:21,380 --> 01:42:20,080
[Music]

2647
01:42:48,160 --> 01:42:21,390
[Applause]

2648
01:42:48,170 --> 01:42:54,709
[Music]

2649
01:42:54,719 --> 01:43:04,020
taking the

2650
01:43:04,030 --> 01:43:34,950
[Music]

2651
01:43:41,109 --> 01:43:38,229
and we are back friends uh

2652
01:43:43,109 --> 01:43:41,119
yeah so i i'm we're gonna check in with

2653
01:43:44,870 --> 01:43:43,119
the super chats and the paypal donation

2654
01:43:47,109 --> 01:43:44,880
i'll check in with the paypal first we

2655
01:43:49,350 --> 01:43:47,119
get a kind and generous 20 paypal

2656
01:43:52,550 --> 01:43:49,360
donation from

2657
01:43:55,830 --> 01:43:52,560
jenny uh who says uh great to see your

2658
01:43:57,430 --> 01:43:55,840
show growing you deserve it keep it up

2659
01:44:01,510 --> 01:43:57,440
uh with a kind and generous twenty

2660
01:44:03,109 --> 01:44:01,520
dollar uh donation thanks very much

2661
01:44:05,910 --> 01:44:03,119
for your kindness your generosity and

2662
01:44:07,910 --> 01:44:05,920
your support jenny uh we appreciate your

2663
01:44:11,750 --> 01:44:07,920
support and thanks yeah it does seem

2664
01:44:12,790 --> 01:44:11,760
that the show is growing

2665
01:44:14,870 --> 01:44:12,800
and uh

2666
01:44:17,030 --> 01:44:14,880
we have a mixed bag of comments about

2667
01:44:19,590 --> 01:44:17,040
tonight's musical guest listen i'm sorry

2668
01:44:20,790 --> 01:44:19,600
that that's last minute this is uh i

2669
01:44:23,590 --> 01:44:20,800
thought it would be interesting to share

2670
01:44:25,350 --> 01:44:23,600
since andrew's ufo videos are in the

2671
01:44:27,189 --> 01:44:25,360
actual music video i've never seen a

2672
01:44:29,189 --> 01:44:27,199
music video that had

2673
01:44:31,669 --> 01:44:29,199
that could claim at least that it has

2674
01:44:34,629 --> 01:44:31,679
genuine ufo footage in it and i thought

2675
01:44:36,790 --> 01:44:34,639
it would fit our show well um would be

2676
01:44:38,070 --> 01:44:36,800
saying digging the music it's almost uh

2677
01:44:38,950 --> 01:44:38,080
pixies

2678
01:44:41,350 --> 01:44:38,960
yeah

2679
01:44:43,990 --> 01:44:41,360
and al julian said this song is truly

2680
01:44:46,390 --> 01:44:44,000
horrible al julian i invite you to send

2681
01:44:48,070 --> 01:44:46,400
me any of your songs you know i'm always

2682
01:44:51,030 --> 01:44:48,080
interested when somebody's very harsh

2683
01:44:52,629 --> 01:44:51,040
with art uh because art is subjective al

2684
01:44:55,109 --> 01:44:52,639
don't you think like

2685
01:44:57,189 --> 01:44:55,119
other people really like the song so i'm

2686
01:44:58,950 --> 01:44:57,199
sorry that you didn't but

2687
01:45:01,590 --> 01:44:58,960
i would always invite people that are

2688
01:45:02,550 --> 01:45:01,600
harsh on artists to walk a mile in their

2689
01:45:05,510 --> 01:45:02,560
shoes

2690
01:45:07,590 --> 01:45:05,520
you know go uh go write a song if you've

2691
01:45:08,470 --> 01:45:07,600
never written a song go try it it's not

2692
01:45:10,310 --> 01:45:08,480
easy

2693
01:45:12,149 --> 01:45:10,320
uh but i'm biased of course being a

2694
01:45:14,790 --> 01:45:12,159
songwriter and uh you know i like to

2695
01:45:17,910 --> 01:45:14,800
stick up for every even if it's a even

2696
01:45:19,990 --> 01:45:17,920
if it's a band i don't like or a song i

2697
01:45:21,669 --> 01:45:20,000
don't like or even a style of music i

2698
01:45:23,669 --> 01:45:21,679
don't like i still

2699
01:45:26,390 --> 01:45:23,679
i'm very supportive of artists doing

2700
01:45:27,270 --> 01:45:26,400
their thing right might not be my bag of

2701
01:45:28,229 --> 01:45:27,280
uh

2702
01:45:31,430 --> 01:45:28,239
you know

2703
01:45:33,590 --> 01:45:31,440
might not be my thing but it's still art

2704
01:45:36,149 --> 01:45:33,600
and arts art it's subjective

2705
01:45:37,990 --> 01:45:36,159
you know i once had this painting in my

2706
01:45:41,030 --> 01:45:38,000
studio in philadelphia that i thought

2707
01:45:44,310 --> 01:45:41,040
was a great painting and i wish i had a

2708
01:45:47,350 --> 01:45:44,320
picture to show you um

2709
01:45:50,550 --> 01:45:47,360
it was a painting of a bunch of horses

2710
01:45:51,830 --> 01:45:50,560
struggling to get to the front you know

2711
01:45:53,430 --> 01:45:51,840
like

2712
01:45:55,510 --> 01:45:53,440
wild horses

2713
01:45:57,510 --> 01:45:55,520
and they were running together and and

2714
01:45:59,590 --> 01:45:57,520
they were all struggling to be the head

2715
01:46:00,870 --> 01:45:59,600
of the pack of the running horses and i

2716
01:46:03,189 --> 01:46:00,880
don't know there's something about that

2717
01:46:04,950 --> 01:46:03,199
painting that spoke to me like

2718
01:46:07,750 --> 01:46:04,960
having a lot of struggles with that

2719
01:46:09,109 --> 01:46:07,760
studio and trying to make a business out

2720
01:46:11,350 --> 01:46:09,119
of it and

2721
01:46:13,109 --> 01:46:11,360
so i hang up this

2722
01:46:16,550 --> 01:46:13,119
painting which was given to me by an

2723
01:46:18,310 --> 01:46:16,560
artist as near as i remember

2724
01:46:20,550 --> 01:46:18,320
and i love that painting

2725
01:46:23,270 --> 01:46:20,560
and uh i i thought that painting really

2726
01:46:24,950 --> 01:46:23,280
speaks to me you know it's really uh

2727
01:46:27,030 --> 01:46:24,960
it really speaks to me like trying to be

2728
01:46:29,990 --> 01:46:27,040
the head of the pack you know struggle

2729
01:46:30,950 --> 01:46:30,000
and racing towards a goal and

2730
01:46:32,470 --> 01:46:30,960
i don't know

2731
01:46:35,830 --> 01:46:32,480
painting spoke to me

2732
01:46:37,510 --> 01:46:35,840
my wife hated it she's like i i was

2733
01:46:39,830 --> 01:46:37,520
rearranging things in the studio it was

2734
01:46:41,109 --> 01:46:39,840
a big painting so i said i'm going to

2735
01:46:42,470 --> 01:46:41,119
hang this painting in the living room

2736
01:46:44,149 --> 01:46:42,480
she's like no you're not that's the

2737
01:46:45,750 --> 01:46:44,159
ugliest painting of horses i've ever

2738
01:46:47,669 --> 01:46:45,760
seen in my life

2739
01:46:49,830 --> 01:46:47,679
and i got to learn a lesson

2740
01:46:52,070 --> 01:46:49,840
from that painting which is

2741
01:46:53,750 --> 01:46:52,080
that art is subjective and one person is

2742
01:46:55,510 --> 01:46:53,760
going to love it and other people are

2743
01:46:57,430 --> 01:46:55,520
going to hate it and there will be

2744
01:46:58,870 --> 01:46:57,440
people in between so

2745
01:47:01,750 --> 01:46:58,880
i guess uh

2746
01:47:04,310 --> 01:47:01,760
try not to be so harsh right

2747
01:47:07,590 --> 01:47:04,320
try not to be so harsh with the uh

2748
01:47:09,510 --> 01:47:07,600
with the criticism of art because

2749
01:47:11,189 --> 01:47:09,520
some people will love that some people

2750
01:47:12,950 --> 01:47:11,199
love the song we play tonight and some

2751
01:47:13,830 --> 01:47:12,960
people not so much

2752
01:47:16,470 --> 01:47:13,840
um

2753
01:47:17,510 --> 01:47:16,480
again if that's not your bag of uh you

2754
01:47:20,550 --> 01:47:17,520
know

2755
01:47:22,550 --> 01:47:20,560
not your usual thing lord ludacris plan

2756
01:47:24,310 --> 01:47:22,560
with a kind and generous dollar 99 super

2757
01:47:25,830 --> 01:47:24,320
chats has really ensured enjoyed the

2758
01:47:27,350 --> 01:47:25,840
show tonight it was different yeah

2759
01:47:29,830 --> 01:47:27,360
thanks lord ludacris we're trying to

2760
01:47:31,830 --> 01:47:29,840
expand things so that we can get these

2761
01:47:34,070 --> 01:47:31,840
playlists going and soon we'll have the

2762
01:47:36,709 --> 01:47:34,080
experiencer files in one playlist and

2763
01:47:40,149 --> 01:47:36,719
you can binge watch them all and we'll

2764
01:47:41,750 --> 01:47:40,159
have the enduring mysteries um playlist

2765
01:47:42,870 --> 01:47:41,760
and you can binge watch all of those

2766
01:47:45,590 --> 01:47:42,880
thank you for your kindness your

2767
01:47:47,510 --> 01:47:45,600
generosity and your support

2768
01:47:49,990 --> 01:47:47,520
i see just one other super chat that we

2769
01:47:52,629 --> 01:47:50,000
got from melissa earlier

2770
01:47:55,590 --> 01:47:52,639
uh who jokes with me sending a hundred

2771
01:47:58,470 --> 01:47:55,600
mexican pesos steven steven guess what

2772
01:48:01,189 --> 01:47:58,480
you just got a hundred fake us bucks

2773
01:48:03,030 --> 01:48:01,199
no uh i got a hundred mexican pesos

2774
01:48:05,669 --> 01:48:03,040
which translates i think that's pesos

2775
01:48:07,510 --> 01:48:05,679
mxn which translates to around five us

2776
01:48:09,189 --> 01:48:07,520
dollars so we're still happy for your

2777
01:48:10,870 --> 01:48:09,199
kindness your generosity and your

2778
01:48:13,270 --> 01:48:10,880
support of the show

2779
01:48:15,030 --> 01:48:13,280
uh even though yeah

2780
01:48:17,590 --> 01:48:15,040
i do a double take every time alisa

2781
01:48:19,590 --> 01:48:17,600
sends that hundred i go 100.

2782
01:48:21,189 --> 01:48:19,600
praise the cat oh wait

2783
01:48:23,030 --> 01:48:21,199
but i still praise the cash because it's

2784
01:48:25,109 --> 01:48:23,040
still five bucks and five bucks is five

2785
01:48:27,270 --> 01:48:25,119
bucks in this economy we will take it

2786
01:48:29,109 --> 01:48:27,280
melissa and thanks also to lord lucas

2787
01:48:31,510 --> 01:48:29,119
plaid their other kind and generous uh

2788
01:48:34,229 --> 01:48:31,520
benefactor tonight with a ninety nine

2789
01:48:35,910 --> 01:48:34,239
super chat chat anybody else have any

2790
01:48:38,790 --> 01:48:35,920
please get them in now because we'll be

2791
01:48:40,550 --> 01:48:38,800
wrapping things up tonight uh

2792
01:48:41,990 --> 01:48:40,560
got some other things to deal with

2793
01:48:45,430 --> 01:48:42,000
tonight

2794
01:48:46,870 --> 01:48:45,440
i'm trying to clean my office i've been

2795
01:48:49,189 --> 01:48:46,880
saying i'm going to do it i was going to

2796
01:48:51,350 --> 01:48:49,199
do it on the weekend then i sat here and

2797
01:48:52,310 --> 01:48:51,360
did other things um

2798
01:48:53,830 --> 01:48:52,320
yeah

2799
01:48:55,430 --> 01:48:53,840
and i really got to clean the office

2800
01:48:57,350 --> 01:48:55,440
before we can get these other camera

2801
01:49:00,229 --> 01:48:57,360
angles and i've got new camera mounts so

2802
01:49:02,950 --> 01:49:00,239
i've got to put up a few cameras because

2803
01:49:05,590 --> 01:49:02,960
because these uh camera mounts get in

2804
01:49:06,950 --> 01:49:05,600
the in the frame and they're stupid and

2805
01:49:08,550 --> 01:49:06,960
you know actually they're very good

2806
01:49:10,229 --> 01:49:08,560
camera mounts but not for this

2807
01:49:12,950 --> 01:49:10,239
application so

2808
01:49:18,070 --> 01:49:12,960
um we're gonna be wall mounting

2809
01:49:21,189 --> 01:49:19,669
yes in the sixth sense thanking lord

2810
01:49:24,229 --> 01:49:21,199
luigi's plan for his kindness his

2811
01:49:26,149 --> 01:49:24,239
generosity and the support

2812
01:49:32,070 --> 01:49:26,159
arcade revival says i want dolan and

2813
01:49:36,229 --> 01:49:34,550
i would beat richard dullen like a storm

2814
01:49:38,070 --> 01:49:36,239
door in a hurricane

2815
01:49:39,669 --> 01:49:38,080
arcade revival if we're talking about a

2816
01:49:40,950 --> 01:49:39,679
fight i don't know about being arm in

2817
01:49:42,550 --> 01:49:40,960
arm with him or him being such a

2818
01:49:45,109 --> 01:49:42,560
powerhouse

2819
01:49:46,470 --> 01:49:45,119
not a fan it used to be now i read his

2820
01:49:48,310 --> 01:49:46,480
first couple of books and i was like

2821
01:49:49,830 --> 01:49:48,320
this guy's great he's grounded he's got

2822
01:49:50,629 --> 01:49:49,840
evidence and then it got worse from

2823
01:49:53,109 --> 01:49:50,639
there

2824
01:49:55,589 --> 01:49:53,119
archaic revival but that's ufo disease i

2825
01:49:57,430 --> 01:49:55,599
hope i never get it

2826
01:49:59,270 --> 01:49:57,440
uh shake television says appreciated

2827
01:50:00,470 --> 01:49:59,280
tonight show cheer steven i think first

2828
01:50:02,070 --> 01:50:00,480
time um

2829
01:50:03,589 --> 01:50:02,080
i've seen you here shake television so

2830
01:50:04,790 --> 01:50:03,599
welcome you're most welcome thanks for

2831
01:50:08,149 --> 01:50:04,800
your kindness

2832
01:50:10,149 --> 01:50:08,159
uh and support of the show

2833
01:50:11,589 --> 01:50:10,159
and black lotus production says exactly

2834
01:50:13,830 --> 01:50:11,599
right true seekers artists should always

2835
01:50:15,750 --> 01:50:13,840
support one another well i've done my

2836
01:50:18,229 --> 01:50:15,760
fair share you know any band shows i've

2837
01:50:20,870 --> 01:50:18,239
been to for bands i didn't like but they

2838
01:50:22,870 --> 01:50:20,880
were my friends so they're having a big

2839
01:50:24,390 --> 01:50:22,880
show let's go and support them have a

2840
01:50:25,430 --> 01:50:24,400
couple of beers

2841
01:50:26,390 --> 01:50:25,440
um

2842
01:50:29,350 --> 01:50:26,400
yeah

2843
01:50:31,990 --> 01:50:29,360
always try to be supportive of um

2844
01:50:33,270 --> 01:50:32,000
of those people that are out there

2845
01:50:34,950 --> 01:50:33,280
you know putting you gotta put your

2846
01:50:37,270 --> 01:50:34,960
balls out there to be an artist black

2847
01:50:38,470 --> 01:50:37,280
lotus production and it's a vulnerable

2848
01:50:40,790 --> 01:50:38,480
feeling you have to be willing to be

2849
01:50:43,750 --> 01:50:40,800
vulnerable to be any kind of an artist

2850
01:50:45,350 --> 01:50:43,760
produce anything even a show like this

2851
01:50:47,189 --> 01:50:45,360
and of course you'll always get your

2852
01:50:49,109 --> 01:50:47,199
detractors

2853
01:50:51,430 --> 01:50:49,119
by the way i heard people were crying

2854
01:50:53,990 --> 01:50:51,440
and moaning because i posted this cabin

2855
01:50:55,430 --> 01:50:54,000
video and i did not post a link to

2856
01:50:57,830 --> 01:50:55,440
robin's channel

2857
01:51:00,310 --> 01:50:57,840
just slip my mind it wasn't intentional

2858
01:51:02,229 --> 01:51:00,320
so i put the link to robin's channel and

2859
01:51:04,070 --> 01:51:02,239
now they'll cry about something else you

2860
01:51:10,790 --> 01:51:04,080
know i i don't know

2861
01:51:14,470 --> 01:51:12,709
uh rorschach man says and look at your

2862
01:51:15,669 --> 01:51:14,480
sound board with each cam to truth

2863
01:51:17,750 --> 01:51:15,679
seekers

2864
01:51:18,790 --> 01:51:17,760
you know i did i was using a sound board

2865
01:51:20,629 --> 01:51:18,800
but it doesn't work real well with

2866
01:51:22,310 --> 01:51:20,639
stream yards so we gave up on the sound

2867
01:51:25,189 --> 01:51:22,320
board and now everything is just in

2868
01:51:26,950 --> 01:51:25,199
software which is both good and bad i i

2869
01:51:29,109 --> 01:51:26,960
prefer i would prefer to have a physical

2870
01:51:31,510 --> 01:51:29,119
sound board here so i can look at it and

2871
01:51:34,709 --> 01:51:31,520
know if i'm muted but the world doesn't

2872
01:51:35,910 --> 01:51:34,719
work my way so i'm just gonna have to

2873
01:51:37,830 --> 01:51:35,920
um

2874
01:51:39,990 --> 01:51:37,840
i'm just gonna have to

2875
01:51:41,589 --> 01:51:40,000
wing it the way that the software wants

2876
01:51:43,830 --> 01:51:41,599
right

2877
01:51:45,030 --> 01:51:43,840
anthony purcell says you have to take a

2878
01:51:46,629 --> 01:51:45,040
chance and there's a certain amount of

2879
01:51:48,149 --> 01:51:46,639
risk interviewing these people you never

2880
01:51:49,669 --> 01:51:48,159
know what you might get yeah some of

2881
01:51:51,669 --> 01:51:49,679
them like to i think tonight was good it

2882
01:51:53,430 --> 01:51:51,679
was a good conversation an interesting

2883
01:51:55,350 --> 01:51:53,440
guy and the fact that he's not taking

2884
01:51:57,750 --> 01:51:55,360
money and he has some evidence behind

2885
01:52:05,910 --> 01:51:57,760
his claims it's very

2886
01:52:09,750 --> 01:52:07,910
part of me

2887
01:52:10,950 --> 01:52:09,760
mike gambally says

2888
01:52:13,750 --> 01:52:10,960
see if you can get an interview with

2889
01:52:15,030 --> 01:52:13,760
thomas jean and his ce5 story

2890
01:52:16,470 --> 01:52:15,040
uh

2891
01:52:18,470 --> 01:52:16,480
well

2892
01:52:20,709 --> 01:52:18,480
don't not familiar

2893
01:52:22,790 --> 01:52:20,719
so email me if you have some links or

2894
01:52:24,310 --> 01:52:22,800
contact information at truthsecretshow

2895
01:52:26,790 --> 01:52:24,320
gmail.com

2896
01:52:28,709 --> 01:52:26,800
and i will definitely look into it this

2897
01:52:31,109 --> 01:52:28,719
success reminding everybody

2898
01:52:33,589 --> 01:52:31,119
that we do have a discord server

2899
01:52:35,669 --> 01:52:33,599
uh so if you enjoy the live chats during

2900
01:52:37,350 --> 01:52:35,679
the live broadcast you will probably

2901
01:52:39,109 --> 01:52:37,360
enjoy the

2902
01:52:48,229 --> 01:52:39,119
discord server where you can chat with

2903
01:52:51,669 --> 01:52:49,910
archaic revival reminding they can

2904
01:52:54,310 --> 01:52:51,679
probably get some equipment

2905
01:52:58,149 --> 01:52:54,320
from the wilcock estate sale

2906
01:52:59,910 --> 01:52:58,159
do you mean the wilcock divorce sale

2907
01:53:02,390 --> 01:52:59,920
chris price is there over in the face

2908
01:53:03,830 --> 01:53:02,400
holding down the facebook uh live video

2909
01:53:05,350 --> 01:53:03,840
saying thanks stephen another great show

2910
01:53:06,229 --> 01:53:05,360
have a good night good to see you here

2911
01:53:09,830 --> 01:53:06,239
chris

2912
01:53:11,589 --> 01:53:09,840
v says really enjoyed this interview and

2913
01:53:13,109 --> 01:53:11,599
how you're diversifying your talks thank

2914
01:53:15,990 --> 01:53:13,119
you

2915
01:53:17,109 --> 01:53:16,000
we are trying the we're we're trying i

2916
01:53:19,990 --> 01:53:17,119
can't

2917
01:53:25,669 --> 01:53:20,000
just talk about one topic within a small

2918
01:53:29,109 --> 01:53:27,350
on the rise this good show andrew was a

2919
01:53:30,629 --> 01:53:29,119
good guest yeah i would have another

2920
01:53:35,430 --> 01:53:30,639
talk with him and we'll see if we can't

2921
01:53:38,870 --> 01:53:37,270
lord ludacris plaid reminding people at

2922
01:53:41,030 --> 01:53:38,880
least where he is it's a clear night

2923
01:53:42,550 --> 01:53:41,040
tonight maybe it's a good night for some

2924
01:53:44,550 --> 01:53:42,560
sky watching and

2925
01:53:50,709 --> 01:53:44,560
trying to spot those aliens lord

2926
01:53:55,030 --> 01:53:52,310
uh oh

2927
01:53:56,629 --> 01:53:55,040
gunner 65 is on the case because uh

2928
01:53:59,189 --> 01:53:56,639
andrew claims he served in the coast

2929
01:54:01,910 --> 01:53:59,199
guard and his service will be verified

2930
01:54:03,669 --> 01:54:01,920
i guess by you i i hadn't looked into

2931
01:54:06,229 --> 01:54:03,679
that and i didn't know about uh his

2932
01:54:08,950 --> 01:54:06,239
military service claims so

2933
01:54:11,669 --> 01:54:08,960
um most of the vetting or most of the

2934
01:54:13,510 --> 01:54:11,679
process for me was just looking into him

2935
01:54:15,990 --> 01:54:13,520
and finding out that he didn't charge

2936
01:54:18,390 --> 01:54:16,000
money gunner 65. so

2937
01:54:20,229 --> 01:54:18,400
uh to me that was um

2938
01:54:22,629 --> 01:54:20,239
made him a lot more interesting to me

2939
01:54:23,990 --> 01:54:22,639
the fact that he he doesn't take money

2940
01:54:27,510 --> 01:54:24,000
did you ever take notice of the

2941
01:54:28,790 --> 01:54:27,520
california drone story 2007-8 i have to

2942
01:54:30,070 --> 01:54:28,800
talk to you about it sometime it was

2943
01:54:31,990 --> 01:54:30,080
huge at the time

2944
01:54:34,310 --> 01:54:32,000
i do have some files on that actually

2945
01:54:37,189 --> 01:54:34,320
shaped television i have all these

2946
01:54:39,030 --> 01:54:37,199
folders with files in them and materials

2947
01:54:40,550 --> 01:54:39,040
in them for future shows but i never

2948
01:54:41,990 --> 01:54:40,560
fleshed it out enough to put a show

2949
01:54:44,470 --> 01:54:42,000
together out of that

2950
01:54:45,589 --> 01:54:44,480
so yeah i'd be interested in in talking

2951
01:54:51,669 --> 01:54:45,599
to

2952
01:54:56,790 --> 01:54:54,390
people are talking about spacex here in

2953
01:54:59,189 --> 01:54:56,800
the in the live chat yeah i'm fascinated

2954
01:55:01,830 --> 01:54:59,199
with spacex and i watch every launch

2955
01:55:03,669 --> 01:55:01,840
myself that i'm aware of anyway

2956
01:55:06,070 --> 01:55:03,679
that's interesting when we when i was a

2957
01:55:07,830 --> 01:55:06,080
child that a space launch was a big

2958
01:55:09,669 --> 01:55:07,840
event and

2959
01:55:11,430 --> 01:55:09,679
if it happened while you're in school

2960
01:55:13,430 --> 01:55:11,440
the nuns would like wheel in the

2961
01:55:14,870 --> 01:55:13,440
television and let you watch the space

2962
01:55:16,790 --> 01:55:14,880
shuttle launch

2963
01:55:18,950 --> 01:55:16,800
and i happen to be watching during the

2964
01:55:21,430 --> 01:55:18,960
tragic space shuttle launch with my

2965
01:55:23,510 --> 01:55:21,440
whole class and that was a

2966
01:55:25,430 --> 01:55:23,520
sort of traumatic event that i will

2967
01:55:27,270 --> 01:55:25,440
always be etched in my memory god bless

2968
01:55:31,109 --> 01:55:27,280
those lost people

2969
01:55:33,109 --> 01:55:31,119
uh who died in the in in the pursuit of

2970
01:55:35,830 --> 01:55:33,119
exploring space

2971
01:55:37,030 --> 01:55:35,840
but space launches used to be a big deal

2972
01:55:38,950 --> 01:55:37,040
you know

2973
01:55:40,950 --> 01:55:38,960
it was an event and now they've become

2974
01:55:44,310 --> 01:55:40,960
so commonplace that nobody cares it's

2975
01:55:45,910 --> 01:55:44,320
like uh yeah elon musk you know we

2976
01:55:49,030 --> 01:55:45,920
shot off a couple more rockets into

2977
01:55:51,350 --> 01:55:49,040
space whatever it's not even a it's it's

2978
01:55:53,270 --> 01:55:51,360
it's like a non-event now which is sad

2979
01:55:55,350 --> 01:55:53,280
to me because i don't know i grew up

2980
01:55:57,830 --> 01:55:55,360
building my rockets and being a big fan

2981
01:56:01,350 --> 01:55:57,840
of uh rocketry and space and the space

2982
01:56:02,550 --> 01:56:01,360
shuttle and nasa and uh

2983
01:56:04,229 --> 01:56:02,560
you know

2984
01:56:06,229 --> 01:56:04,239
try to get my son to watch the space

2985
01:56:08,070 --> 01:56:06,239
launches with me and he's somewhat

2986
01:56:10,390 --> 01:56:08,080
interested but uh has a short attention

2987
01:56:12,390 --> 01:56:10,400
span so he's like you know how sometimes

2988
01:56:15,030 --> 01:56:12,400
there's delays like they delay the

2989
01:56:17,589 --> 01:56:15,040
launch 25 minutes to for the clouds to

2990
01:56:19,350 --> 01:56:17,599
clear or something weather or you know

2991
01:56:21,589 --> 01:56:19,360
mechanical problem they're trying to

2992
01:56:23,910 --> 01:56:21,599
nail down and he loses interest real

2993
01:56:25,669 --> 01:56:23,920
fast it's got to be

2994
01:56:27,510 --> 01:56:25,679
right away like i gotta show him the

2995
01:56:29,030 --> 01:56:27,520
launch or he's not interested in sitting

2996
01:56:29,990 --> 01:56:29,040
there for 20 minutes waiting for the

2997
01:56:32,149 --> 01:56:30,000
launch

2998
01:56:39,109 --> 01:56:32,159
but uh i'm sure his attention span will

2999
01:56:42,229 --> 01:56:40,070
so

3000
01:56:43,750 --> 01:56:42,239
uh i want to thank everybody for joining

3001
01:56:47,430 --> 01:56:43,760
us this has been another in our

3002
01:56:50,149 --> 01:56:47,440
continuing ex experiencer files series

3003
01:56:52,629 --> 01:56:50,159
um spooky and i are working on fleshing

3004
01:56:54,709 --> 01:56:52,639
out some more of these series because i

3005
01:56:57,669 --> 01:56:54,719
have a tendency to start a series and

3006
01:56:59,109 --> 01:56:57,679
then i don't do enough episodes to

3007
01:57:01,030 --> 01:56:59,119
really call it a series but we're

3008
01:57:02,629 --> 01:57:01,040
working on that and soon we're going to

3009
01:57:04,709 --> 01:57:02,639
have these playlists so you could go to

3010
01:57:06,390 --> 01:57:04,719
like a bigfoot playlist and watch all

3011
01:57:09,270 --> 01:57:06,400
the shows on bigfoot

3012
01:57:11,830 --> 01:57:09,280
a enduring mysteries playlist and watch

3013
01:57:13,589 --> 01:57:11,840
all the enduring mystery shows a ufo

3014
01:57:15,990 --> 01:57:13,599
report playlist

3015
01:57:17,350 --> 01:57:16,000
the mask show playlist and all these

3016
01:57:19,669 --> 01:57:17,360
other things

3017
01:57:21,589 --> 01:57:19,679
and hopefully um

3018
01:57:23,270 --> 01:57:21,599
that will improve our views because then

3019
01:57:24,470 --> 01:57:23,280
people can binge watch and i don't know

3020
01:57:26,149 --> 01:57:24,480
about you but

3021
01:57:27,750 --> 01:57:26,159
i like binge watching things so we got

3022
01:57:30,310 --> 01:57:27,760
to get that together we're trying to

3023
01:57:32,629 --> 01:57:30,320
flesh out a few of these

3024
01:57:34,629 --> 01:57:32,639
series get a few more in so it's an

3025
01:57:36,870 --> 01:57:34,639
actual you know four or five video

3026
01:57:38,550 --> 01:57:36,880
series when we do the playlists i

3027
01:57:40,390 --> 01:57:38,560
appreciate you guys being here tonight

3028
01:57:41,189 --> 01:57:40,400
for the live taping and helping me do

3029
01:57:43,350 --> 01:57:41,199
that

3030
01:57:44,790 --> 01:57:43,360
you always hear me say this i'm always

3031
01:57:46,390 --> 01:57:44,800
happy when there's an audience tonight

3032
01:57:48,550 --> 01:57:46,400
we had a great one

3033
01:57:50,629 --> 01:57:48,560
and there's no place i would rather be

3034
01:57:52,229 --> 01:57:50,639
than right here with you

3035
01:57:53,910 --> 01:57:52,239
but i do have a bunch of other stuff

3036
01:57:57,350 --> 01:57:53,920
that i got to do tonight

3037
01:58:00,070 --> 01:57:57,360
uh then uh daddy duty tomorrow of course

3038
01:58:03,270 --> 01:58:00,080
so uh i'm gonna bounce on out of here i

3039
01:58:05,189 --> 01:58:03,280
want to thank my guest andrew for uh for

3040
01:58:07,510 --> 01:58:05,199
you know loaning us his time and and

3041
01:58:09,910 --> 01:58:07,520
coming here and being willing to answer

3042
01:58:11,589 --> 01:58:09,920
whatever questions we had for him now i

3043
01:58:13,589 --> 01:58:11,599
realized i didn't grill him too much

3044
01:58:14,709 --> 01:58:13,599
tonight because i know that his story is

3045
01:58:17,830 --> 01:58:14,719
interesting enough that we'll get a

3046
01:58:21,589 --> 01:58:17,840
second bite at that apple hopefully

3047
01:58:24,149 --> 01:58:21,599
and uh i am going to be doing some

3048
01:58:26,790 --> 01:58:24,159
uh checking in on some of his uh

3049
01:58:28,629 --> 01:58:26,800
collected evidence over the years

3050
01:58:29,830 --> 01:58:28,639
and have a lot more questions for him in

3051
01:58:31,189 --> 01:58:29,840
the future

3052
01:58:32,870 --> 01:58:31,199
um

3053
01:58:34,870 --> 01:58:32,880
but i definitely want to thank him for

3054
01:58:37,189 --> 01:58:34,880
coming here tonight not many so-called

3055
01:58:38,790 --> 01:58:37,199
psychics or mediums will

3056
01:58:41,109 --> 01:58:38,800
um

3057
01:58:43,430 --> 01:58:41,119
and that says a lot about the the

3058
01:58:44,790 --> 01:58:43,440
veracity of their claims

3059
01:58:47,270 --> 01:58:44,800
andrew i think is an interesting

3060
01:58:49,910 --> 01:58:47,280
character because if he's not taking

3061
01:58:52,310 --> 01:58:49,920
money and he's not trying to cash in on

3062
01:58:54,149 --> 01:58:52,320
his abilities in fact from what i have

3063
01:58:56,229 --> 01:58:54,159
observed and experience and even talk to

3064
01:58:57,350 --> 01:58:56,239
some people that know him he's trying to

3065
01:58:59,830 --> 01:58:57,360
use

3066
01:59:02,709 --> 01:58:59,840
this so-called gift to help people and

3067
01:59:05,109 --> 01:59:02,719
certainly that is an altruistic and

3068
01:59:07,189 --> 01:59:05,119
honorable thing to try to do

3069
01:59:09,350 --> 01:59:07,199
if if the universe has given you these

3070
01:59:10,950 --> 01:59:09,360
strange gifts

3071
01:59:12,470 --> 01:59:10,960
why not use them to try to help people

3072
01:59:14,229 --> 01:59:12,480
and i believe that his heart is in the

3073
01:59:16,470 --> 01:59:14,239
right place and he is so we wanted to

3074
01:59:19,750 --> 01:59:16,480
bring him here sort of introduce him

3075
01:59:21,669 --> 01:59:19,760
hopefully uh he'll be back to talk again

3076
01:59:24,310 --> 01:59:21,679
so until next time friends my name is

3077
01:59:35,189 --> 01:59:24,320
stephen campion good night and god bless

3078
01:59:35,199 --> 01:59:38,310
so

3079
02:00:05,020 --> 01:59:49,270
[Music]

3080
02:00:17,910 --> 02:00:05,030
so

3081
02:00:38,360 --> 02:00:17,920
[Music]

3082
02:00:47,300 --> 02:00:38,370
so

3083
02:00:49,430 --> 02:00:47,310
[Music]

3084
02:00:52,260 --> 02:00:49,440
[Applause]

3085
02:01:27,330 --> 02:00:52,270
so

3086
02:01:57,360 --> 02:01:30,080
[Applause]